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Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

https://www.boxofcables.dev/azure-linux-4-0-is-microsofts-first-general-purpose-linux/
35•haydenbarnes•1h ago

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nullpoint420•59m ago
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish anyone? Although, as a Fedora user I'm happy it's RPM based.
giancarlostoro•50m ago
Little harder to pull that off when the key components are all GPL licensed, but also all of Microsoft's bits and pieces for their distro seem to be MIT Licensed. Honestly, it certainly feels more like Google lives by Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (email, browsers, video streaming, etc).
greenavocado•46m ago
That's why they're pushing hardware attestation so aggressively
nullpoint420•46m ago
Agreed on the Google front here.
saghm•41m ago
You cited three of the most prominent counterexamples to the common meme about Google killing their products as evidence of them extinguishing things. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I don't think you've demonstrated what you think you have.
tossit444•46m ago
Not really. They've always advertised it for, well, Azure, and the actual announcement[0] makes it clear that it's simply a distro for Azure workloads. Considering they state it's "built exclusively for cloud and server workloads, it is not intended to support desktop usage or GUI applications," Microsoft isn't playing that game here.

[0] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/linuxandopensourceb...

yjftsjthsd-h•45m ago
As a Fedora hater, I'm also happy it's RPM based; IMO, .debs are just flat out worse than .rpm as a format and the tooling on top matches that. I do wonder, though:

> Azure Linux 4.0 is derived from Fedora, right now a Fedora 43 snapshot, rather than assembled package by package the way 1.0 through 3.0 were.

Then what's the point? They could just ship Fedora. There are minor differences, but all things that sound easy to get upstreamed with minimal effort.

fragmede•38m ago
Time difference. A VP at Microsoft has someone they can yell at to make an ship a change. Having to ask upstream politely and then wait for their release schedule was proving to be an issue.
mhitza•30m ago
Same as with any distribution it gives you flexibility over update cadence, validate your software doesn't break with updates, and push out your own hotfixes without being tied to the release process upstream.

Default configurations as well, since it states FIPS compliance it has to change defaults <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveFipsModeSetup#W...>

tigerlily•42m ago
Extinguish Windows morelike...
froh•44m ago
call me old fashioned isn't a general purpose OS one that runs on any hardware and set up? and is certified with hardware vendors for full backing and support?

all this says is: "MS now provides a unified Linux from WSL to the MS cloud. just like what you got w/ SUSE RH canonical up to now. but without any support outside the MS stack.", right?

or am I missing something?

PacificSpecific•21m ago
Don't worry you aren't. Luckily no one will use this distro day to day
haydenbarnes•20m ago
ISV certification is coming.

On-prem hardware support would be interesting, wouldn't it?

unethical_ban•43m ago
Tldr a MSFT maintained fedora fork tuned for Azure hardware.
codycharris•38m ago
No it's not. It's for tuned for Azure. Nobody is running this outside of their compute environment.
VincePlatt•6m ago
I was curious to see what it would be like to run this under WLS. I'm guessing we'll get our chance at some point.
smitty1e•37m ago
[laughs in Torvalds.]
drnick1•34m ago
This is a nonevent, unless perhaps some genuine "general purpose" tools come out of this. MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.
santoshalper•28m ago
I don't think Microsoft would intentionally compete with Windows, but it does seem as though they are preparing for a world where Windows is no longer their golden goose, or at least hedging their bets. Given that Windows has already decisively lost the battle for servers, this seems prudent.
Topgamer7•23m ago
Technically they gave mono to the wine project
Krutonium•22m ago
You say that, but Microsoft has contributed to Wine!

Both in terms of code and help, on occasion. Microsoft gave Mono to Wine, and while Wine has a ban on accepting code from people who have seen the source of Microsoft Windows, they have, if I recall correctly, accepted documentation on Windows Internals from Microsoft themselves.

999900000999•10m ago
Which is rather kind.

They could of also pulled an Oracle , claimed the APIs are copyrighted and sued.

WINE, even if right couldn't afford to fight.

I can even imagine official Linux support for the Surface tablets.

Infact, Microsoft makes very little off its consumer OS. They could even give up the market entirely and bless a distro with solid WINE support for legacy applications.

mattoxic•15m ago
"Microsoft’s in-house Linux, the distribution that grew out of CBL-Mariner, just hit public preview as a general-purpose cloud OS you can run on any Azure VM. Here is why that is a real step in Microsoft’s Linux journey, not just a version bump."

Christ, they even lead with AI slop.

WD-42•11m ago
Do people not realize that this just instantly torpedoes credibility and respect? I'm dumbfounded.
gnabgib•13m ago
Previously (61 points, 17 days ago, 49 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48187736

Microsoft's Azure Linux (66 points, 4 months ago, 109 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46805841

DeathArrow•16m ago
>MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.

I think Microsoft is contributing to Linux kernel. Their golden gooses are Azure and Office which have nothing to do with Wine and Proton.

It would be too weird if they will release a win32 compatibility layer for Linux in the future as they might not want to maintain a full operating system.

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