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The Empty Field That Wasn't: GPS, OTAD and Two Decades of Encrypted Broadcasts

https://lsc-pagepro.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=865273&p=62&view=issueViewer
44•lordgilman•10h ago

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transistor-man•8h ago
This is a fantastic writeup
timeinput•7h ago
This is an interesting article. It has a very strong AI accent.

I really wish I could tell how real it is. When some part of it I can tell is AI slop, how much of it is AI slop? Inside GNSS has always been a marketing rag with sometimes some interesting articles.

The author is a security researcher, so maybe poking at GPS bits makes sense, but talking about floating point bit depth? There's too much slop for me to figure out if there's anything of real interest or if this is just a hallucination.

Edit. After reading more carefully this is 100% AI slop. Inside GNSS published Steven Murdoch's chat gpt session. Maybe some data was transmitted? The only way you'll actually know is to redo the research your self. There are many fabrications / confabulations that clearly happen with AI in the text.

rcxdude•7h ago
I've worked with the guy credited in the article before, so I'll vouch for his general credibility and the underlying information likely being solid: there's good evidence for this field being some kind of encrypted data stream, probably key distribution, and the behaviour has changed over time. But the breathless LLM-tone really did make it hard to read.
timeinput•6h ago
Cool. Some data may have been transmitted over GPS. That's interesting and note worthy.

If only that was all that was posted.

Instead there's this stuff that makes me question Steven Murdoch's research practices. If you're willing to publish slop are his research practices slop? Can I trust any paper he creates in the future when I can tell this one has factual errors? Why should I bother reading it?

I actually think he's a good researcher from a little reading. I wish he hadn't done this.

rcxdude•2h ago
I agree
andyjohnson0•1h ago
> Can I trust any paper he creates in the future when I can tell this one has factual errors?

What are the factual errors?

ekelsen•6h ago
So much AI. I stopped immediately. He might have something interesting to say, but apparently not important enough for him to write about it himself, so not important enough for me to read it either.
sjm217•5h ago
The code is all available and every claim is traceable back to the statistical analysis. Results are reproducible from the original data which is archived on Zenodo. Further analysis would be very welcome. https://github.com/sjmurdoch/gps-special-messages
moritzwarhier•7h ago
Later submission:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48414479

https://www.404media.co/the-u-s-military-quietly-turned-gps-...

The 404 article seems fluff-free and cites

https://insidegnss.com/current-issue/

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