The northern border used to be so much more flexible and I don't see any real benefits from doing all this.
Hah
I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns, and I suspect that the US is not quite on board with blasphemy/hurty-words laws. I suspect the divergence will grow.
This library worked well for a hundred of year, and then the US government decided they wanted to invade Canada, wage an economic war, and needed to protect their border at all cost in case an invasion of migrants would come from... that library.
This whole administration is just vile, and are long past the point where there should have been an uprising. Just an absolute idiocracy. A worldwide pariah, spiralling down the toilet.
If Canada broke the treaty, in theory, the U.S. could lay claim to parts of Ontario and Quebec. And if America broke it, Canada could get parts of Maine, Michigan, and Wisconsin. So, basically, North American geography as we know it is contingent on this early 1800s treaty remaining in effect.
The podcast was from December -- an eternity ago in these interesting times -- and I don't know whether anything has changed since then.
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/653-beyond-the-99-inv...
The podcast's transcript suggests that their source for this is https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/peace-arch-u.... The person confidently claiming that any closure of the park would result in catastrophe is an immigration lawyer, not a historian:
"Saunders said the treaty stipulates there could not be any boundaries or physical barriers erected on the northern border of the U.S. — and if either side violated that treaty — the boundaries revert back to pre-treaty."
Since the Treaty of Ghent restored the pre-War of 1812 borders of both the United States and Canada, this doesn't make any sense. Canadian historian C. P. Stacey states that the period after the War of 1812 actually saw more border fortification than the years before (https://www.jstor.org/stable/1840618).
I mentioned that the idea that a 19th century treaty keeps the US-Canada border demilitarized was a good story, but I think the truth is an even better one: that the border is demilitarized because both countries know that they can trust their neighbor. Let's hope it stays that way.
I don't expect the damage to be undone within my lifetime.
South Africa by contrast does not have open borders, and is currently going through another bout of violent xenophobia.
I don't think these two things are specifically related.
My friends in Europe describe the situation differently
> Mr. Trump, tear down this door!
I'm so glad both towns an other private donors pulled together to make this happen.
They might not be wrong about this, the president is known for siccing the department of Justice on his political enemies.
Midterms coming up and prosecuting an endless "war" that doubles gas prices, and not seeming concerned at all about the blowback?
What's up with that?
When he says that he has no reason to worry because the polls show everyone loves him, I think he genuinely believes that.
Get off your arse and take lessons on protesting from the French.
But i guess ticking “we did something” checkboxes keeps the paycheck deposits flowing.
Not anymore, not right away anyway:
> The new terms allow each country to expel asylum seekers who apply for protection within 14 days of crossing the U.S.-Canada border between ports of entry.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/us-canada-ex...
Unfortunately the border actually needs to be more sealed.
Once again, borders doing what they do best: waste honest people’s resources.
We might ask: why did America allow in so many people in who were obviously migrants, and not real temporary visa seekers? (Nigeria in a particularly common offender and we've been nagging the US about this for over a decade now and you only finally did something about it last year.)
It has been such a headache that yes, we've been tightening the border. Now drone patrols and heat sensing monitors along most of the length of it.
The new reality of so many people fleeing America has been difficult to wrap our heads around as to how to respond socially or legally. Some right-wingers want to build a wall. But that's not going to solve the problem and the terrain isn't conducive to it.
Pressuring the United States to control its own borders and being less generous with allowing asylums claims has been the way forward the last year. But neither option is going to probably do much.
CBSA has ramped up deportations to more than 20,000 a year. It's kinda nuts.
I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. Sorry to be curt but, since Canada-USA relations has been more at the forefront, I've seen too many comments that just "don't get it" and it riles me up each time.
They've had the 2nd amendment since their country was founded. It has no bearing on relations between the two countries, both at a micro and macro level.
We respect that they are their own country and have their own ways of doing things, which isn't even the same across each state. We respect US sovereignty over their own laws. It's the lack of respect for ours by the current US administration that is upsetting.
That's basically all its come down to. Oh, and the tariffs don't help either.
Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.
Really? How?
It’s not the heater itself, it’s everything else about them that is 10/10.
We're not anti-gun. Just anti the "only used explicitly for killing people" kind of gun.
I grew up and live in rural Canada. Rifles for hunting or farming are just part of life. Though the long gun registry did make them more of a hassle.
Why do you need a killing-person gun? What's that for?
There's some bizarre pseudo-libertarian contingent out there that seems to genuinely believing that Canada is some place where we arrest people with Jordan Peterson books off the street and that the Ottawa "trucker" convoy was some sort of colour revolution brutally stamped out by a Communist Regime(tm).
(When actually if said "truckers" had tried what they did on the US side of the border, DHS would have just shot them, and the vaccination law that they were supposedly protesting was a law demanded by the US and the Trudeau gov't tried multiple times to have it delayed/deferred)
guns, jets, immigration sovereignty and a disinterest in peer pressure about it, similar combination of cultural influences, publicly traded central bank that just creates money and buys US tech stocks and produces dividends, ATMs that dispense $200, $500 and $1000 denominations and nobody batting an eye about it
just some tweaks to life that stand out to me, all the other normal stuff is cool too
only citizenship I would consider trying to marry into
>wants to immigrate there
>not by making an economical case that having you in the country will make them richer
>but by trying to marry a local
Real talk. You may want to delete this post before you actually do the citizenship by marriage thing, buddy. Marrying for the express intent of obtaining citizenship is generally considered citizenship fraud.
Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions?
Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza?
I could go on.
Octoth0rpe•1h ago
> Haskell Free Library
Has zero to do with haskell the language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Free_Library_and_Opera...
_verandaguy•1h ago
skipants•1h ago
Now that's a special kind of joke I can only find on HackerNews
Evidlo•1h ago