What is the operational cost and when does it become more expensive than the upfront capex?
The B200 tops out at 1000W and idles around 140W. It averages around 600W. https://www.lightly.ai/blog/nvidia-b200-vs-h100 U.S. average electricity cost is $.14 per kWh in March. https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph...
600/1000 *.14 =$0.084 per hour $2.01 per day $60.30 per month With 300 users, $.20 per user per month. Seems fairly cheap for the electricity.
Does anyone know how to estimate colo/data center rent costs? Where did I screw up my estimates?
That seems like a very consequential point to include halfway through the post. They aren't wrong that Qwen 3.6 26B or Gemma 4 31B are quite good, depending on the use case, but if we're doing napkin math, I'd want some more headroom in the assumptions.
They really ought to have Qwen parameterize their post's calculations and add sliders so a reader could play around with the values.
Edit: And since they especially mentioned DeekSeek (or whatever), as far as I know, none of their current generation of models is a dense model, and even the smallest of the mixture of experts (MoE) models is 284B parameters (13B activated). That will completely incinerate their napkin.
smalltorch•2h ago
This leads me to believe you can buy a GPU but leave it at a data center?
Do people do this? I don't understand. Or are you equating upkeep bill to electricity on premises?
__s•2h ago
smalltorch•1h ago
Network throughout?
namibj•1h ago
BadBadJellyBean•17m ago