Qwen-Image-3.0: Rich Content, Authentic Details, Deep Knowledge

https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen-image-3.0

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xiaoyu2006•4h ago

The blog write-up style is so casual haha.

embedding-shape•4h ago

Not a single word about when/if they'll actually release the weights for this, or am I missing it somewhere?

user43928•4h ago

Considering Qwen-Image-2.0 weights have not been released either, it unfortunately looks unlikely.

vachina•2h ago

Why release it just so Cursor/Azure/Amazon can profit off of it? Unless OpenAI actually opens it up fat chance.

Mashimo•4h ago

> Supports up to 4.5k token input, effortlessly generating complex layouts such as newspapers, storyboards, and exam papers.

Impressive.

Btw, what is currently the best model to run locally on a 16GB Vram? Is it Z-Image Turbo?

woadwarrior01•4h ago

Krea-2-Turbo. I've even got it working locally on my M5 iPad Pro.

Mashimo•4h ago

thanks mate. Sadly not supported yet by Invoke, but I will take a look.

Izmaki•2h ago

> We implemented safety measures across the full model development lifecycle.

Any suggestions for the best open, non-opinionated model?

woadwarrior01•43m ago

It is a reasonably non-opinionated model. My usual test is to ask these models to generate comic book and cartoon characters that hosted image generation models refuse to generate. I think that text is just CYA legalese.

bitexploder•39m ago

You can also ablate it.

spwa4•4h ago

Appears to be closed-weights entirely. No word at all on any weights release.

weird-eye-issue•4h ago

The meta keywords in the HTML is very interesting. 100+ references to NSFW topics such as hentai, nudes, etc.

walrus01•4h ago

Wow you really weren't kidding. Fully automated AI slop tentacles for everyone!

https://pastes.io/uenL6X9K

It also seems to have an obsession with this celebrity, based on how many times ctrl-f for "stefani" turns up a result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Stefani

Mashimo•4h ago

> total drama qwen hentai

Do you want to know more?

[ ] Yes [x] no

jpfromlondon•3h ago

Qwentai

weird-eye-issue•4h ago

> spider qwen thicc, spider qwen tied up, spider qwen toddler costume, spider qwen trans, spider qwen wallpaper, spider qwen xxx hentai

walrus01•4h ago

spiderman pointing at spiderman meme trans wallpaper xxx thicc hentai

rvz•4h ago

Midjourney already knew that image generation was going to zero. Again yet another reason why the model was never a moat in the first place.

treetalker•4h ago

The red-dress woman's vestigial pinkie toes …

postalcoder•4h ago

They must have trained on GPT Image 1 outputs. The yellow tint is unmistakable.

https://qianwen-res.oss-accelerate.aliyuncs.com/Qwen-Image/i...

yorwba•3h ago

GPT Image 1 ended up with a yellow tint without training on another image-generation model's output. It's just that humans like pictures with a soft sunset glow, and this is a very easy global signal for a preference model to pick up on, and for a image-generation model to imitate. So optimizing for aesthetic appeal makes everything slightly tinted by default, unless you make sure to countersteer.

postalcoder•3h ago

Fair point!

Grimblewald•3h ago

Didnt the piss tint come after their big studio ghibli heist?

dannyw

jdw64•3h ago

Wow, it displays Korean properly without breaking. But there are still a lot of typos. Haha, it's good that Korean displays properly, but there are a lot of incorrect sentences

sheept•3h ago

I find it mildly interesting how your comment repeats itself but with different phrasing

jdw64•3h ago

It's because of the structure of Korean. I think in Korean first, so I end up translating it directly.

When I want to emphasize something, I tend to repeat it

mahimai•3h ago

interesting

mynti•3h ago

To me it feels so weird that people are trying to push these model for online shopping like "here is how this dress/shirt/pants would look on you". But these models will always make the clothes fit your body and show you in flattering light and so on. How the actual garment fits is still as elusive as before these tools

walrus01•3h ago

The cynic in me says this is just an advancement and logical continuation from the known problem of sycophantic behavior in text-to-text chatbot format LLM, to image generation models.

inerte•1h ago

To me the tools are newer, but fit people in a controlled context to sell clothing is as old as photography itself.

number6•3h ago

Sounds exactly like something the marketing department would use to up the convertion rate

viraptor•3h ago

There's definitely a predatory "everything will look good", but you can also leverage exactly that part for your own purposes - I've done pre-shopping a couple of times by asking for something like "a grid of 9 versions of my photo, wearing different types of X that look good". Definitely helped with choosing a good style.

khurs•3h ago

viridir•3h ago

This looks impressive！

pal9000i•3h ago

How long until we get rid of the AI "plasticness" in portrait kind of generated images?

aitchnyu•3h ago

There is an IRL phenomena, glass skin skincare and makeup, where the person's skin is evenly flat and toned and glossy. Did you think they are more plasticky than IRL models?

numpad0•2h ago

That's supposed to make skin appear lively. Human skins in AI images tend to look clouded, opaque, and overall un-alive, so to speak.

jrs100000•3h ago

The right models and LORAs can get rid of it right now. People apparently really like everyone to look like over exposed over filtered mannequins, so the big companies target that look.

saltysalt•3h ago

It will be interesting to compare this to Flux 2.

Oarch•3h ago

I assume Van Gogh didn't paint enough hands to train from!

gpjanik•3h ago

The real performance is nowhere close to what is presented in the marketing materials, which is pretty annoying. Especially text rendering and accuracy.

Try asking it for a plot of Polish GDP growth over the past 20 years. It's slop.

viraptor•2h ago

This model isn't supposed to contain all the numerical data. It will give you a (usually) matching graph transformed from one you provide or from a table of information you provide. Or you can pipeline from an LLM doing research on that data first. But expecting an image gen model to get you GDP info has got to be one of the worst possible approaches.

> Especially text rendering

That's true though. I still got some completely fried letters in headings.

yorwba•2h ago

Giving it numerical data in an LLM-generated prompt doesn't seem to help much: https://imgur.com/a/KFhczOd

It included the table verbatim and even managed to hallucinate a reasonable heading for it, but then the graph doesn't even manage to align the data points with the time axis, leading to an unfortunate collision in the middle.

I guess you should use a traditional graphing library for your presentation slides for now.

spwa4•1h ago

... but if you want an accurate graph, why not ask the LLM model to put the data points into a graphing library?

dsrtslnd23•3h ago

Seems that this will not be open weights?

gchokov•3h ago

It failed to create a simple overlay on a map - something ChatGPT had no issues with.

maxloh•3h ago

I am curious whether the model requires a font to be installed. Does it also generate the glyphs for the text?

simonw•2h ago

Yes, it generates the text without using a font. Same is true of other image models like ChatGPT Images and Gemini Nano Banana and Midjourney.

feverzsj•2h ago

The "piss filter" is still everywhere.

dhbradshaw•2h ago

The generated latex pdf!

hessammehr•2h ago

Very cool but the Arabic text in the title image is obviously and hopelessly broken, which is oddly not the case when actually using the model. Could it be that the hero image was not generated by Qwen Image 3.0?

amrrs•2h ago

that's a very interesting point to test new models. I speak an Indian language called "Tamil" and have always tested new models with Tamil but also have tried little bit of Arabic (quranic verses) with previous GPT image 2 and Nanobanana pro and they have nailed it. Don't know if it was because of extensive training data.

bejd•2h ago

I wonder if they got permission to generate that (admittedly impressive) Berserk image.

arslan9063•2h ago

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR

ninjagoo•2h ago

The examples posted on their launch blog page are quite impressive, especially for fine details, multi-panel/multi-page and text rendering.

But: not open-source/open-weights, and no indication that weights/source will be released either.

simonw•1h ago

> to precisely describe the full 3×3 grid takes a full 3.7k tokens

It's a shame they didn't share that prompt - it would make that demo more convincing.

tarcon•1h ago

I am surprised by the rather bad output. It doesn't achieve qwen image 1 quality in composition or anatomical correctness. Tested on chat.qwen.ai

I am seeing third legs and glowing eyes. It's a Microsoft Lens level of quality and that one was pulled.

sajithdilshan•1h ago

I truly wish these models were available when I was in University. As a visual learner it would have been much easier for me to understand certain topics with illustrative diagrams rather than reading a wall of text.

DaiPlusPlus•1h ago

…but the illustrative diagrams are a simulacrum; if you ask Qwen, or any image-generator, for an “accurate” poster-design featuring a representation of a model of an atom and explaining its constituent parts I expect you’ll get an imitation-airbrush rendering of red, blue, and grey table-tennis balls orbiting in perfect circles; you might get an electron-shell diagram if you’re lucky. What you won’t get is anything remotely related to probability-clouds.

Edit: just to test myself I asked Nano Banana 2 to generate “an undergraduate infographic poster about how atoms work” - and the result was something right out of a middle-school science textbook and very Bohr…

sajithdilshan•54m ago

This is the image I got for the same prompt: https://jumpshare.com/s/mqqBdl7U59FWPiEXjwoM. It's more like high-school level, but not bad. I can imagine a collage professor can improve the prompt the create a more accurate and detailed diagram

zarzavat•53m ago

This seems like something that could be solved by asking an LLM to write the prompt for the image model. You can also feed in the output of an image model into an LLM and ask it to check it/make improvements.

lifthrasiir•1h ago

> In the three examples below, the model accurately renders Japanese, Korean, and Spanish respectively.

And yet the Korean text is not accurate... [1]

[1] E.g. "드레스 컬렉션 dress collection" has vowels ㅔ mixed with ㅐ, "초웜한" should be "초월한 exceeding", "신키한" should be "실키한 silky", "디자언되다" should be "디자인되다 have been designed", "로얼" should be "로열 royal", and so on.

ndom91•1h ago

Again not released on huggingface immediately?

timedude•57m ago

Zooming in on mobile on that website causes a large white area to obstruct the page. Might wanna look into that.

As for the image model, wow...

yoshitha2010•53m ago

Estate agents are also doing it; making interiors of houses look very different to how they really are.

Smaily•51m ago

why I cant submitte new posts here ? My account since 2016

WithinReason•4h ago

probably due to misspellings as qwen stefani

alex_suzuki•3h ago

> ben 10 hentai game where qwen gets drunk

erm... what?

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bbor•3h ago

Whelp today’s a unique day on hacker news, wow! Didn’t expect to read that at my desk lol

archon1410•3h ago

Surely it was meant to be "Gwen" (the protagonist's cousin and the other main character in the show). I guess it was somehow (incorrectly) assumed to be a misspelling of Qwen and included in the tags. Or perhaps many people were misspelling Gwen as "Qwen" and it was all hoovered up.

pdpi•3h ago

Keyword typosquatting I guess?

goobatrooba•2h ago

Wow, crazy things - "shemale porn", "spider fucks venom", and various porn URLs like tushy.com. What the hell did they do to their AI? Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

walrus01•1h ago

> Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

[whynotboth.gif]

chmod775•4h ago

Bonus points for also covering misspellings like "pregbant".

QuantumNomad_•3h ago

how is prangent formed

Am i gregnant?

https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg

gchamonlive•2h ago

Can you even get pregnato

Mtinie•1h ago

qregnant

Geee•1h ago

how is babby formed? how girl get pragnent?

jmuguy•37m ago

mothers who kill thier babby. becuse these babbys cant frigth back?

user_7832•21m ago

If a women has starch masks on her body does that mean she has been pargnet before.?

yewenjie•56m ago

how do i stop my son from looking at pikachu porn

timedude•54m ago

Stork bring baby

isoprophlex•3h ago

show bobs and vegana!

walrus01•3h ago

For those unfamiliar.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bobs-and-vegana

marginalia_nu•1h ago

This reddit slop is unbecoming of HN.

gchamonlive•33m ago

Is there such a thing as Reddit "unslop"? Thought it went without saying.

user_7832•20m ago

That's racist!

(See kids, it is possible to fight memes/racism with memes! And well... yeah, this really is racist.)

lukan•4h ago

That is hilarious as porn is illegal in China. But I guess pron SEO is allright, if it is against the west.

weird-eye-issue•4h ago

Western search engines simply ignore the meta keywords tag for over a decade now

lukan•3h ago

So what is the point then?

weird-eye-issue•3h ago

There is no point. It's from people that have no clue which is most people that do search engine optimization

That said it's possible search engines in China or other countries might use it, but it's very easy to game so it doesn't really make sense

vitalyan8184•2h ago

uh, are you implying that porn is bad somehow? I can show you a hundred articles that say only nazi incel chuds believe so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/us/hate-groups-porn-consp...

porn is as American as apple pie.

lukan•2h ago

Incels are probably the biggest porn consumers.

Apart from that, I made no judgement about porn in general, just about porn tags in Chinese backed AI websites.

Lio•30m ago

> porn is as American as apple pie

So not at all then as Apple Pie is a traditional English desert. :P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_pie

postalcoder•3h ago

That's hilarious. These keywords are applied globally, even on pages like https://qwen.ai/usagepolicy, where they very kindly ask you not to use their products for sexual content.

Run this in console to see all the tags:

  document.querySelector('meta[name="keywords"]').content

khurs•3h ago

WTF lol

    who made qwen stefani's dress

    spiderman into the spider verse did qwen meet Peter

    qwen stacey porn

    do blake shelton and qwen stafani have children together

OkWing99•2h ago

Some of it is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Woman_(Gwen_Stacy)

(i.e. the porn references)

LoveMortuus•2h ago

Why would they added URLs for porn websites to their keywords? Like literally the names of websites with ".com" and such at the end.

WhereIsTheTruth•3h ago

Brainrot is the new opium war

cyanydeez•3h ago

how the turn tables

user43928•2h ago

I assume they use a SEO tool that automatically adds these meta keywords to optimize for some search engines.

It apparently adds common search terms that contain words like "qwen". This evidently includes possibly mistyped searches for "gwen" or "ben" in a NSFW context.

Maybe someone knows more about how such SEO tools work, and where they pull the data from.

spiderfarmer•1h ago

Sounds like “keyword shitter” (genuine tool)

AI-generated images are part of the web now, if you're doing ordinary web scraping, you can't avoid training on generated images.

As long as the Product Manger gets a bonus/promotion then it's a success.

TylerE•3h ago

To be fair in many cases the actual clothes aren't much better. I've had two pair of the same pants, same brand, same size fit noticeably differently.

morningsam•2h ago

Maybe this will lead to more business for tailors doing alterations, assuming the clothes people end up buying are expensive enough to justify it.

jimnotgym•2h ago

I understand they are already doing decent business since the advent of the magic weight loss pen

epolanski•2h ago

I have a similar use case at work for previewing construction material and such in our catalogue applied to user uploaded images.

Results are mixed, expensive, but it really feels you're few months off the next improvement to really nail it. It's already good enough.

Wonder what Qwen image will provide over nano banana.

k2enemy•2h ago

I've noticed something similar in Facebook marketplace ads for used furniture. Most of the images are AI generated to look like a Pottery Barn catalog, then the last image will be the actual item, full of scratches and other damage, sitting in a messy garage.

aembleton•1h ago

Estate agents are also doing it; making interiors of houses look very different to how they really are.

jeremyjh•1h ago

Yes and even if all they do is ask it to stage an empty room picture with furniture and decorations it will make improvements like adding a doorway to a room that doesn’t exist.

agile-gift0262•1h ago

The worst I've seen changed the view out a window from an alley to a private garden. Most also add natural light that isn't possible, and in some cases I'm convinced the generate image is depicting the space as larger than it actually is, with furniture and spaces that wouldn't fit in reality

skinfaxi•40m ago

Seems like false advertising.

QuantumGood•1h ago

And knocking out the messy garage background to replace it with a showroom is the easiest prompt.

jliptzin•2h ago

If it doesn’t fit, then you must have gained weight while the item was in transit

agile-gift0262•1h ago

You can fix it through our partner, Ozempic

jareklupinski•1h ago

i'd like it to notice things i would miss, like "this is ring-spun shirt, so it will sit like this on your torso" or "these pleats will require you to iron them" etc

pwillia7•1h ago

I bet if you had a way to easily train a LORA on you trying on various clothing types the models would do pretty well but I agree without that I can't think of a way to get it to work. Reminds me of the flattering mirrors scam https://finance.yahoo.com/news/company-swears-controversial-...

brookst•1h ago

The more honest ones are “how it looks on you” and don’t promise fit that depends on so many measurements that aren’t even visible in pics.

Sure, it’s idealized, but some people benefit from seeing color / neckline / etc on themselves as a visual reference.

Me, I’m a text-learner so I don’t get it at all. But I know people who get value.

therealpygon•46m ago

Good or bad, I’m pretty sure showing things in the best light has always been the point of “marketing”. There is a reason ads aren’t filled with ugly people with misshaped bodies, and it isn’t because the intention is to reflect reality, so what you allude to as problematic is what a lot of businesses call a feature.

LogicFailsMe•36m ago

I use nanobanana 2 to test changes in paint and flooring/tiling to great success. And the real pro move is taking those images to a designer to tweak the remaining 20% or so.

qwertox•35m ago

> But these models will always make the clothes fit your body and show you in flattering light and so on

This is something that can be fixed over time. And if this forces clothing manufacturers to stick more to their advertised "specs" (width/length), then it's a win for us.

victorbjorklund•11m ago

Is it gonna be less distorted than just seeing the shirt on a model photographed by a professional in the perfect light?

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