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Should you wash your solar panels?

https://incoherency.co.uk/blog/stories/should-you-wash-your-solar-panels.html
35•surprisetalk•1h ago

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walrus01•33m ago
It's a bit worrying the author is asking chatgpt about the tingle rather than making sure there's a grounding lug on all the panels and they're all bonded to a grounding rod.

The rudimentary nature of the setup makes me think there isn't something like a single conductor 12awg (or euro equivalent) copper wire that bonds to all panels and a basic $30 rod.

quickthrowman•10m ago
The system in question does not have a transformer so a grounding rod is not required as it is not a separately derived system.

The equipment grounds should be tied together to prevent any difference in potential though.

1123581321•31m ago
Appreciate the attempts to quantify it. I haven't tried to quantify washing, but I do look at mine regularly. I doubt anything accumulates that rain doesn't handle well enough.

Messing around with ground panels is lower risk and safer than roof panels where tool extenders and ladders start to become involved. If you have roof panels, you are the biggest danger to your panels (and yourself.) Don't try to clean them, spray them, knock snow off of them. I was told this multiple times by my installer. :)

msdz•13m ago
As another anecdata-point, when we did this for a now already fairly old roof installation of about 15kWp, it was more than “just about worthwhile”, since the panel area is contiguous: cost seemed to scale up less quickly than the wattage/theoretical maximum output, and the cleaning guy (solo company, IIRC) even told us it wasn’t necessary to do this every year (we hadn’t had it done even once the first decade+ of the installation’s lifetime).

So, at least in our case, definitely worth it.

collabs•29m ago
Maybe the thing to do is to NOT upgrade existing working panels but rather set up a different/separate entity with completely different accounts and new panels?

And about the washing, I wonder if it would be worth it to automate the process with a spray of water periodically? You can still wash the panels but I suspect it won't be necessary if there isn't too much dust accumulation? Isn't rain supposed to wash away the dust? What am I missing here?

ido•24m ago
Some places don't get much rain (and these are the places that tend to get even more dust - e.g. deserts).
rjmunro•20m ago
It may also be worth spraying them with water when they are too hot. As they get hotter the efficiency drops a little. It's only a few percent, and usually it happens at the time you need the efficiency the least because it's sunny, but if you can combine cleaning and cooling and get a few extra w out if it, why not.
collabs•15m ago
Yes, I meant I can get on board with automatically (periodically or based on some trigger or sensor) spraying the panels with water but I was hoping it isn't necessary to use Windex® or even dish soap on the panels themselves.
Tade0•8m ago
Solar panels are increasingly being oriented east or west instead of south, as while it reduces overall yield, it maximises power when it's needed the most - during morning and evening peaks.

I don't have numbers, but I suspect it alleviates issues with dust buildup and temperature.

bebe8393jrir•28m ago
> If I increase the power output of the system then the additional capacity will not be eligible for the feed-in tariff and will revert to present-day prevailing tariff which is about 4x worse before you even consider that I currently get to use electricity and still get paid for generating it.

> This is the yin and yang of market-distorting incentives. Today's incentive to install solar becomes tomorrow's disincentive to upgrading it.

I am not sure what author is trying to hint. But solar does not need artificial subsidies, and can pay for itself!

There are no subsidies in UK! Homeowners get so much money, because of all that sunshine and wind energy, their house generates! UK goverment just run out of money, when energy got expensive!

UK goverment needs to step up, to replace gaz with renewables!

You can not expect homeowners to sell energy bellow market price!

philipallstar•20m ago
Solar gets lots of subsidies in the UK. Homeowners who installed it 10 years ago get a ridiculous payment for generating excess, even if the grid doesn't use it.
rjmunro•12m ago
> solar does not need artificial subsidies, and can pay for itself

That's true now, but wasn't true when those panels were installed. There were subsidies available to get the market kick-started.

They consist of an extra payment for every kwh you generate on top of the payment for delivering the power to the grid. The amount varied depending on when you signed up to the scheme, but at certain points it was as much as 50p/kwh (+ inflation, so more than that now).

otherme123•12m ago
> I am not sure what author is trying to hint. But solar does not need artificial subsidies, and can pay for itself!

I think he is describing a subside that some governments gave years ago: you installed for example 5K, and get paid for whatever they generate at 300% market price, for a long time (25 years?). Today you find out that upgrading panels would made perfect financial sense, if you were selling at 100% and are going to sell electricity at 100% (you will be doubling the output for a tenth of the inversion 15 years ago), but as the subsides of 300% no longer exist, you will be actually losing money by upgrading.

wodenokoto•26m ago
> why would you clean them when you're about to sell the house?

So they look good and the potential buyer sees something that looks to be in good condition and working well.

hgomersall•9m ago
Our peak daily export energy jumped by about 35%-40% when we had our panels cleaned for the first time in 8 years. The _look_ much cleaner, and the measured export shows it.
sluongng•5m ago
isn't that more of a storage issue, which a home battery would solve?

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