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Google shuts down Nobel Prize winning AlphaFold

https://www.engadget.com/2225849/google-shuts-down-alphafold/
61•NordStreamYacht•2h ago

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ChrisArchitect•51m ago
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49096841
vicapow•48m ago
Is there a lot more work to be done?
thaumasiotes•37m ago
> DeepMind started developing AlphaFold in 2018. In 2020, it was recognized as a solution to humanity's 50-year-old "protein folding problem," which sought to answer how amino acids automatically fold into complex 3D shapes. Those shapes determine the biological role of a protein. Scientists had identified the structures of roughly 170,000 proteins over the past 50 years, using tools and techniques like X-ray and nuclear magnetic resonance. The AlphaFold team took information from those previous work and then fed it to their AI to train AlphaFold.

> In 2021, Nature published the papers with AlphaFold's methodology and the structure predictions of the entire human proteome, or the complete set of proteins expressed by our species. DeepMind then launched the AlphaFold Protein Structure Database, giving researchers free access to over 200 million protein structure predictions.

Why is there no information on corroborations of the predictions? Anyone can make predictions. Surely there must have been teams picking predicted structures out of the database and comparing them to actual molecules?

colingauvin•3m ago
There's plenty of information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASP

jrflo•36m ago
> DeepMind then launched the AlphaFold Protein Structure Database, giving researchers free access to over 200 million protein structure predictions.

Is this existing database enough for researchers?

BariumBlue•28m ago
As per the article they're slowly shuttering the project, but I assume AlphaFold itself is still available and usable?

I assume that AlphaFold isn't perfect, but surely after so many years on it most of the useful juice had been squeezed in terms of making it a useful tool?

dude250711•17m ago
They realised it's time... Gemini to follow?
Insanity•9m ago
I know you're saying this tongue in cheek. But the reason they're shuttering Alphafold is (likely) to assign those engineers and their expertise to Generative AI initiatives like Gemini.
balozi•12m ago
The obvious question to any business leader is "why?" Why deploy resources to a project? Is this project central to our current or future revenue streams? If not, toss it out.
colingauvin•12m ago
>DeepMind started developing AlphaFold in 2018. In 2020, it was recognized as a solution to humanity's 50-year-old "protein folding problem," which sought to answer how amino acids automatically fold into complex 3D shapes.

This is not even close to reality. AlphaFold is not a solution to the protein folding problem, it's (useful) pattern matching to the end state of solved folded protein (in situations that can be pattern matched). If this is considered "solving the protein folding problem" then X-ray crystallography solved it first, 75 years ago.

There is essentially zero "how" information coming to us from AlphaFold. This type of reporting is incorrect, and irresponsible to the folks that are still working on that how problem.

geremiiah•4m ago
Yes and correct me if I'm wrong, but they never did deeper work on dynamics. I think that's very telling.
AntonyGarand•11m ago
To learn more about AlphaFold and its importance, I would recommend the Veritasium video[0]: AlphaFold - The Most Useful Thing AI Has Ever Done

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_fHJIYENdI

geremiiah•6m ago
It's probably because they hit a dead end with their approach in terms of improvements. You can only get so far with trying to model a physical system with an insane number of degrees of freedom from simulation (and augmented) data.

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