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Study uncovers lost 'golden age' of languages

https://news.yale.edu/2026/07/23/study-uncovers-lost-golden-age-languages
21•gmays•2d ago

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gregdaniels421•1h ago
> political currents don’t have to move in one direction. It’s not inevitable that endangered languages become extinct.

There really isn't any good incentive to learn a language with very few speakers, since unless you already know a speaker, you really can't practice the real language. People were a few years ago at least hoping llms could help preserve the languages, but more most of them, there just aren't enough samples for any real preservation. I knew some dudes in college that were linguists that worked on recording native speakers of endangered languages, and while I hoped they would succeed, I never really had much hope of it working.

mohamedkoubaa•48m ago
Empirically, the best way to keep a language alive is for a user of that language to write a Great Work in it.
gregdaniels421•45m ago
If there are 80 speaker/readers, how could a language get popular again? By interested readers of a translation?
cineticdaffodil•19m ago
Unless the language lacks concepts and like scientific recombinateability and the cultural Nexus of youth just moves.
smitty1e•47m ago
An interesting tangent to the language discussion is the Epic of Gilgamesh => https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-book-review-the-epic-o...
retrac•3m ago
You know how people learn Ancient Greek to study Homer in the original language?

Gilgamesh deserves that. I'm only a beginner but the refinement of the poetry is already obvious even as someone who doesn't know the language.

Euphony was very important to the Mesopotamian poets. They liked rhythms and alliteration and assonance. And the late editions of Gilgamesh reflect about three thousand years of iterative improvement:

> ilū işinu iriša. ilū kima zūmbē eli bēl niqi iptaȟru. ("The gods could smell the fragrance. They gathered around the sacrificiant like flies.")

The ş is pronounced as regular s, q like in Arabic. Vowels like in Spanish or the phonetic alphabet. Macron means a long vowel. Stress on the penultimate.

It really rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

> ibri kudanu ţardu akkannu ša šadi nimru ša şēri ("my friend the swift driven mule, wild ass of the mountains, panther of the wild")

> ibri ša arammušu danniš ittīa ittallaku kalu marşāti ("my friend, whom I loved greatly, who journeyed with me through every hardship")

> fate overtook [him... the tablet breaks off here]

jmyeet•24m ago
> We show that language isn’t isolated from political currents and that this dynamic has been a facet of human history for much longer than previously thought.

Um, when did anyone think it wasn't?

The entire history of linguistics shows this. Proto-Indo European had no common word (for that family) for sea/ocean [1] from which we can deduce something about the people who spoke it. That's not political obviously but environment and culture are inseparable from language is the ponit.

Languages really only grew for political reasons. Look at the spread of Latin throughout Roman territories.

Likewise, languages splinter and diverge in isolation. Populations that remain where they are and separate from others will drift linguistically. You can look at most of Europe for this. As just one example, the drift in Swiss Germany in Switzerland, which is a relatively small country.

But more than that, it takes some kind of centralization, which is to say, political force, to maintain a language. English had massive changes from Old English (which is essentially a separate language from Modern English) to Middle English (which is largely comprehensible by the modern speaker) when French was the court language of England in the centuries after 1066. And the Normans left their own imprints on English, which is where a ton of loan words came from [2]. But English grammar also greatly simplified without a central authority telling everyone what is proper, basically [3].

One of the fascinating things I remember learning was that there are between half a million and million cuneiform tablets int he world and fewwer than 10% of them have been translated. Now cuneiform is a writing style but one of the difficulties is that it encompasses multiple languages. And this was one of the earliest recorded examples of language displacement from Sumerian to Akkadian over thousands of years. But tablets could be written in part in both languages for a very long time. This is where we have the earliest documented human name, Kushim [4].

But the point is that the rise and fall of Sumer and its displacement by Akkad is recorded in the language.

And of course we had the spread of "colonial" languages in the colonial period (ie Spanish, French, Portugese, English).

Pragmatism also is a factor here. Different languages are inconvenient between populations that interact. The natural tendency is to homogenize on language given sufficient time, even without political pressure. it's a little sad when languages die but it's kind of inevitable.

[1]: https://talageri.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-proto-indo-europea...

[2]: https://www.krysstal.com/display_borrowlang.php?lang=Norman+...

[3]: https://www.sciscanpub.com/index/journals/ainfo/alr/7943.htm...

[4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushim_(Uruk_period)

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