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Admin: Terminally Ill Patients Aren't Exempt from Medicaid Work Requirements

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-medicaid-work-requirements-2677293170
42•hn_acker•1h ago

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hn_acker•1h ago
The original title is:

> Trump Admin Argues Even Terminally Ill Patients Shouldn’t Be Exempt From Medicaid Work Requirements

buildsjets•10m ago
Thanks, that's a lot more accurate and informative than the bowdlerized Hacker News title.
throwawayq3423•50m ago
The Cruelty Is the Point.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelt...

hexator•50m ago
This just sounds cartoonishly evil
toomuchtodo•25m ago
This is America.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49089109

snow_mac•32m ago
Evil. Just evil. Terminally ill patients can't work, they're on deaths door. If they don't get treatment, they are dead. Let's let the medical decisions be handled by doctors and not some politician.

Honestly things like this show me the President has to much power. There should be government agencies where no political party can touch it without significant oversight and approval from both the president and both houses of congress.

Medicare, Medicaid, FBI, FCC, FAA, The Fed, and more all should be outside admin control of the president and any single party or group of individuals. Only when you have a 2/3s majority of both the houses and the president should you be able to make such broad sweeping policy changes.

bigstrat2003•7m ago
> Honestly things like this show me the President has to much power.

Not just the executive, but the federal government in general has way too much power. There are so many things that the federal government does which it wasn't meant to do, all justified by an extremely bad faith reading of the commerce clause. It is a significant source of problems for our nation, because it makes federal elections (and in particular the election for president) super high stakes for people. We would be much better off without the various perversions of the constitution that FDR pushed through, but I suspect there's no political will to walk it back (because people love getting money from the government).

Supermancho•29m ago
People have always suffered under the banality of indifferent evils. A blanket policy is bad policy. Ok, so what's the better solution?

ie I'm dead in 5 years from my conditions, so when should I be exempt?

stldev•25m ago
This is incredibly cruel, and not surprising at all.

On par with this administration- Goons pulled back because they're murdering innocent civilians at car stops? Chief goon steps up and says "put them back!"

Then he takes to the waves to instill fear and uncertainty in our election process.

Americans are being boiled alive, nice and slow- and a third of them love it!

pyuser583•23m ago
Ok see what they’re doing - they’re taking a position that sounds (and mostly is) horrible. But they putting a poison pill for their opponents to consume: HIV patients have to work.

Thats common sense. People with HIV are usually able to work, and usually not terminally ill in the typical sense.

There are already comments defending the silly idea of HIV patients being excluded from work expectations: “if that’s the cost of a social safety net …”

That’s not the cost of a social safety net anywhere else in the world.

The current administration isn’t stupid. They know how get their opponents to freak out and say stupid things, and every stupid thing they say outweighs 100 reasonable things.

Be careful: work requirements are a mine field of helpfulness, good governance, and cruelty.

cmrdporcupine•9m ago
Not-American here: the issue is having to have a program like Medicaid in the first place.

A half-century of struggle in other industrialized western nations happened precisely because of this kind of thing. And in the 50s and 60s and 70s ... because of that -- and because of fear of contagion from the USSR -- most countries put in universal health care systems of various forms which eliminated the need for means testing and "charity" type medical care in the first place and defined quality health care as universal available.

Time for that struggle again.

theflyingelvis•17m ago
I have what is ostensibly an incurable terminal cancer and i work, by my own choice, 40+ per week. I see no issue with making folks in similar positions show that they are in fact, too sick to work.

If an individual IS too sick to work it should be relatively simple to get the required documents to prove that fact. God know i had enough hospital social workers and doctors asking me if it wanted said documentation.

Yopolo•12m ago
That you are defending this while having terminal cancer is more depressing than not.

I really hope you have a great job which fullfills you and thats the reason why you continue working but A LOT of people do not have something like this.

It only shows how little our society values humans despite us having all resources and all knowledge necessary to feed and house every single human on the planet right now.

Wish you a fullfilled happy life.

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