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NetBSD 11.0

https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_11_0_released
106•jaypatelani•1h ago

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kogasa240p•1h ago
Very nice, wonder what's the state of using NetBSD as a daily driver?
giancarlostoro•1h ago
Nowhere near as Linux, some can be better than others.
shrubble•48m ago
Desktop use is probably the best option for daily driver, since almost everything on the motherboard has support, most likely.
guerrilla•30m ago
Does it have Bluetooth, because OpenBSD still doesn't.
clort•3m ago
NetBSD has had Bluetooth for 20 years?
roschdal•1h ago
NetBSD feels like a high quality, ancient relic from the University of California, Berkeley, from the 1970s, made for munks, secret FBI databases and special military operations.
JdeBP•11m ago
As someone who has used old BSDs, I can say from direct experience that it does not.

For starters, on the old BSDs there was no Almquist shell, unless you went to Usenet, grabbed the shar, and built it. The TENEX C shell was the hot new thing, as were BIND and Sendmail. And we got genuine Joy+Horton vi.

Whereas modern NetBSD does not have Sendmail any more, has nvi2, and supports access control lists. And of course under the covers has lots of things that the old BSDs didn't have, like UFS for TiB disc volumes and kqueue.

I've heard tell that they're even thinking of finally doing away with BIND in base.

imoverclocked•1h ago
> CD-ROM media

Wow, I just learned that I can still buy a pack of new CD-RW discs. This is an almost 30 year old format that is still published for!

Long live ATAPI!

Seriously though, why still publish CD formats when a usb-stick is far more ubiquitous and much easier to actually write. Are there systems that can boot CD-ROM interfaces that don't have USB boot capability still?

bilegeek•1h ago
> Are there systems that can boot CD-ROM interfaces that don't have USB boot capability still?

New x64 systems? Probably not. But since it still supports x86 and a whole slew of other architectures[1] still that don't always, it probably wouldn't make sense to stop.

[1]https://www.netbsd.org/ports/

bpye•51m ago
NetBSD supposedly supports 486, I don't think you're going to have much luck with USB there.
AAAAaccountAAAA•33m ago
Some higher-end 486 boards[1] were made with PCI slots, so retrofitting them with an USB controller shouldn't be difficult? You'll still need a boot floppy to actually boot from an USB drive, I think?

1. https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/asus-pvi-486sp3

bitwize•59m ago
Blit the iso to a usb stick and boot it. If your PC is recent (made in the past 15-20 years or so), it'll understand it just fine.
jbs789•1h ago
As someone reading this fresh, they are almost apologetic for a release with open issues. But presumably the release closes off many more than it creates. I could see any other author/org approaching the messaging very differently!
jmclnx•43m ago
Just finished upgrading, went easy. Because I am using cgd(4) I find it much easier to use sysupgrade(8) from pkgsrc.

I was running the R/Cs without any issues, so I am sure 11.0 will be very stable.

cyberpunk•20m ago
The release announcement has better details: https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-11/NetBSD-11.0.html
imoverclocked•56m ago
> If you are using flash-based media (e.g. a USB drive), please use the .img files rather than the .iso images.

I have done that in the past but there are already .img files specifically for USB. Seems redundant.

jmclnx•37m ago
>Are there systems that can boot CD-ROM interfaces that don't have USB boot capability still?

Old Systems. I have one such system that will is in line to move to 11.0 from 9.3. To do that I will boot from CDROM. It does not have any USB ports.

NetBSD is probably the only UN*X Type OS that can run on many of these 32 bit systems. Plus the NetBSD team is doing their best to support these old systems.

That saves me $ and helps the environment a little bit :)

imoverclocked•24m ago
> That saves me $ and helps the environment a little bit :)

Seems like a tradeoff with power though. Even emulating hardware from that era is more power efficient than actually running it. Of course, if you have custom ISA cards or something then you are likely stuck :)

sellmesoap•16m ago
I don't know about the progression of PSU efficiency, but 32bit desktops were rocking 250-400w PSUs and modern desktops would be hard to find one less then 650w so sure maybe we're more efficient for the amount of compute/W but running flat out will still hit your pocketbook harder on a modern system.
thisislife2•31m ago
I am guessing, but many of us still use CDs / DVDs (/BluRays?) to make backups. It's cheap. Lasts long.
sellmesoap•20m ago
Write once has some security benefits as well!
alt227•6m ago
> Lasts long

My CD backups lasted about 10-12 years before the silver started peeling off the discs :(

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