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Plug-In Solar Panels Starting to Sprout in U.S. Backyards

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/business/energy-environment/plug-in-balcony-solar.html
29•bookofjoe•1h ago

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bookofjoe•1h ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/business/energy-environme...
CodeWriter23•49m ago
There was a carport fire in my building back in the 90's. The firefighters got all set up to turn their hoses on it but did not actually start using water to fight the fire until the utility guy from the city arrived to de-energize the supply from a nearby vault.

How does that safety protocol work when the electrical connections and supplies are distributed around the house and may be inaccessible due to fire?

Vortigaunt•45m ago
companies that sell plug-in systems argue that safety risks are minimal or nonexistent. Mr. Scherer of Craftstrom said his company’s systems would not shock electrical workers because they shut off automatically within one second of a power disruption or grid outage.

Mr. Boyce of UL Solutions said his company would certify panels only if they did not pose a risk to consumers or utility workers.

0xbadcafebee•44m ago
The device looks for an existing signal from the grid, and if it doesn't find it, it stops feeding power. It even waits for 3-5 minutes before trying again plus some random jitter to avoid thundering herd. It's been a standard in Europe for a while and now finally in the US. This of course depends on the utility and state as not all of them have adopted it but it's quickly becoming the standard everywhere.

IEEE 1547 (interconnection behavior), UL 1741 (inverter product safety), UL 3700 (plug-in solar). (also there are newer revisions you need of some standards like UL 1741)

lokar•19m ago
Also, utility line workers always treat everything as live until they isolate it and confirm it’s not live (or do the work live in some cases).
ButlerianJihad•10m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balcony_solar_power

  In the United States, Underwriters Laboratories developed the UL 3700 standard specifically for plug-in solar devices, establishing safety specifications for microinverters and connection systems used in these applications.[2] UL-certified plug-in inverters are designed to automatically shut down during grid outages, preventing backfeed that could endanger electrical workers.[7]
So that is the standard failure mode, but do customers understand how it works?

If I had a balcony solar panel, I'd definitely expect it to be providing backup power when we need it the most. I'd expect it to charge a storage battery, not backfeed into the grid.

Surface area means a lot for solar panels. An EV with a solar panel on top is laughable. I own a solar backpack that couldn't charge its power bank within 3 weeks of daily full sun. A "balcony solar panel" may not keep your smartphone charged.

InsomniacL•41m ago
I imagine the solar panel will detect when the circuit it is plugged in to is de-energised and stop supplying supplemental power to it.
iolo•35m ago
This is exactly how our rooftop solar works. The inverter only supplies ac power if it can sync to the grid frequency meaning that the system disconnects without a live grid connection. Even if I had a battery, this would still be a requirement under local regulations.
micw•36m ago
In Germany, where this kind of plug-in solar panels is very common (1.5 GW installed power) it is mandatory that the inverter powers itself down as soon as the grid is offline/disconnected. It has to be so fast that you can savely touch the plug after unplugging it. I guess it's standard everywhere.
paulsutter•16m ago
Actually the rule is that your solar system must stop feeding power to the utility if the utility is down. You are allowed to run in isolated mode if your system supports that. Yes, even in Germany.
analog31•7m ago
Every way I can think it through, isolated mode means your house is disconnected from the utility, which requires more equipment than can be contained in a plug in solar panel.
KennyBlanken•10m ago
Maybe the fact that these panels are legal around the world and soon will be legal in a number of US states should be a sign to you that this is not a relevant concern.
downrightmike•30m ago
Let's just point out that it isn't about the line workers, it is about raising prices on consumers.

They'll replace the line worker at the drop of a hat, and fight tooth and nail to grow profits, that's just how corporations work.

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