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How AI text watermarking works

https://declaude.org/watermarking/
30•padolsey•1h ago

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oidar•50m ago
I wonder how much output text it would take to work out the key that the watermarker is using?
pessimizer•41m ago
I can't believe I got this in one. I guessed a math PhD interested in steganography could come up with a good method in a week, and an idiot like me figured it out in 5 minutes.
techjamie•40m ago
I wonder if this will become a new revenue stream for providers. Want to know if Claude generated some text? There's a free web form you can paste into.

Of course, you can also run your own check service if you pay some API fees, and those checks can be a lot more convenient for users since the services can check multiple sources, to whom they are paying for the privilege.

Then someone washes the text through a local model that rewords it, the markers are lost, amd they're clear again.

JSR_FDED•35m ago
AI writing at its finest
joebates•28m ago
They/the LLM made sure to replace the em dashes with semicolons
jaggederest•13m ago
This is a fun challenge, I think: make the AI generate text with no obvious AI shibboleths. I haven't found a good way to do it at all yet, the more you ask it not to, the more you lower the output quality, which paradoxically makes it more sloppy, not less. Funnily enough I think "lower-power" LLMs are much better at this, like Haiku is much better at keeping voice on track with those kinds of instructions.
Terr_•13m ago
Ex:

> The one idea in this step: a model writes by rolling weighted dice between several words that would each be fine.

Telling me there's just one idea is taking up even more space than just saying it.

bethekidyouwant•35m ago
okay so text generated in America by and American AI will be watermaked to make Brussels happy? and then (only) elite companies will have access to some portal to they can label text as AI generated?
calif123•32m ago
I wonder if this is for use in future legal battles over ownership/creation/invention of new software and/or concepts.

For example, someone inventing a new technology might use AI to assist with code prototypes/doc prep etc. Where would that leave the rights of the owner/creator/inventor. These text watermarks provide fuel for legal battles.

Am I wrong?

giancarlostoro•13m ago
I think the goal is not to validate if you used Claude, the goal is to insert enough information in your code to identify who you are over at Anthropic, like a covert unique hash to identify you, hidden in plain sight, but that's my own speculation and not based on anything.

I'm having a hard time thinking of any other use case... What other reason is there to fingerprint your code?

I assume if they arrest you for vibe coding something that violated computing laws (hacking) they can then scan your code, send it to anthropic, anthropic confirms that Claude was used on your account, on x device to build malware.

Remember they busted a hacker because of his Windows unique install ID.

AProgramnerLazy•15m ago
From now on, a programmer can no longer claim that they wrote the code themselves when it was written by AI, in a way that could bypass this issue.
lemoncookiechip•15m ago
One aspect that people seemingly aren't talking about is the impact this has in the model's creativity. Because the model will nudge each word towards group A vs group B, you're losing on creativity, especially more so if the nudge isn't a gentle 55% but something like 70% or 80%. So essentially they're forcing the model to be less creative for the upside that the longer the text the easier it is to detect the watermark.

Here's a visual representation of the watermark: https://i.imgur.com/JNUIykX.png

This is even worse in such forms of writing like coding, where there's even less choices the model can make on what the next token should be. Plain text in code will obviously be watermarked, that includes comments. But the code itself might get watermarked by choosing certain code over others more often.

I'm inclined to believe the models will be instructed to not watermark code, especially since it's harder to detect reliably because the shorter the body of text the harder it is to detect, but who knows what Anthropic and all the other AI labs will decide to do in the future.

EDIT: Also for those in the comments who are naive enough to think Anthropic is doing this just because the EU said so and not because it's beneficial to them (and all other AI labs), well, you are indeed naive. Identifying code will be paramount in training future models because the more synthetic data you feed it, the more cannibalization happens, the worse the models will perform over time due to lack of good data, among other such reasons as selling AI detection services to colleges, and a plethora of other reasons.

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