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Eclipse: The Xiaomi 17 Ultra Confuses the Moon and the Sun

https://www.frandroid.com/marques/xiaomi/3211257_photo-de-leclipse-on-a-perce-a-jour-la-petite-triche-du-xiaomi-17-ultra-qui-confond-la-lune-et-le-soleil
31•n_plus_1_acc•2h ago

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swiftcoder•31m ago
It remains incredibly funny that they never turned off this "fake moon" feature after being caught the first time
thehamkercat•4m ago
I think you're confusing them with samsung who was caught in 2023 for this

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo...

inigyou•4m ago
Because nobody cares. We live in a post-truth era.
IvanK_net•30m ago
In the future, it might be extremely hard to find a camera which records exactly what is in front of it :D
BlackRabbit1•28m ago
A lot of smartphones support raw format.

It's fascinating to see how much post-processing gets done.

PlunderBunny•22m ago
There was a post on HN a few months ago showing the stages of post-processing on a photo of a Christmas tree in a room - the original photo was unrecognisable.

I would find the link, but I’m balancing my phone on my knee while trying to eat dinner and pretend I’m not playing with my phone while eating dinner…

yoavm•15m ago
It's this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46415225
Retr0id•12m ago
Often the "RAW" output is still DSP'd, just less (e.g. only debayering + noise reduction).
Alexander-Barth•20m ago
I am wondering if the AI enhancement should be opt-in rather than the default and saving the original as well. Even if you want AI enhancement, future models are likely to be better.
Zealotux•18m ago
With the rise of AI-generated content I would actually love a camera with no post-processing by default and a watermarking system that proves the picture is authentic. I can see Apple going that way eventually.
ionwake•18m ago
I still struggle with the idea that the chinese olympics had both CGI fireworks and real firework footage mixed together.

I cant fathom how this was a "if they know it doesnt matter at all" situation.

A complete acceptance of real / fake, who cares its about stuff looking great.

I mean I can be told it but I cant understand why you would waste millions on real works just to have fake ones, why not just go all fake? If its a half way house then does no one care what is real?

IE on linkedin somany AI videos with thousands of comments and likes and I become lost on ... do most poeple just not care if its real or not? I dont think they do at all. Am I mad to care?

Its very easy to say well everyone uses filters and they are not real. And its true! But somewhere and I have no idea where, there seems tobe a line for me where I say no, thats not cricket, you cant just replace part of an image with a template of something else. I have no idea tho any thoughts appreciated.

xattt•16m ago
Does it come from a cultural mindset, or are people from China just as confused?
Smoosh•11m ago
> why not just go all fake?

Perhaps they needed some real fireworks for those there in person, and to be able to claim that there really was a fireworks show, but wanted to amp it up for those viewing the event virtually (most of the world).

Alexander-Barth•13m ago
Interestingly, one of their AI filters is actually called "Super Moon":

4.14.3 Camera Image Optimization

The camera image optimization AI algorithm is mainly used in the following camera features: Super Moon, AI Camera, Document Mode, Front Portrait Mode with Background Blurring, and Beautify.

https://trust.mi.com/docs/miui-privacy-white-paper-global/4/...

Taniwha•4m ago
I wonder if it gets the moon the right way up in the southern hemisphere
hutattedonmyarm•15m ago
Eh, there are plenty of third party camera apps which do that (See: Halide and their Prozess Zero). I doubt a built-in one will go that way.
swiftcoder•12m ago
Well, they do their best, they don't do any userspace post-processing. They can't really help whatever the firmware in the camera and/or the camera driver are already doing.
amelius•8m ago
How does that watermark feature work if you can just point the camera at an AI-generated image?
st_goliath•17m ago
The year is 2036, when dialed up to maximum space saving, the latest generation of smart phones now turn camera pictures to a textual description and later when you want to view them, re-generate them on the fly using a text2image model. Not that "saving space" really means something, the phones refuse to unlock if they don't have an internet connection and store all your data on multiple cloud servers anyway (one for each five eye country).
inigyou•6m ago
It's already 14 eyes, and it'll be 195 eyes by then

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