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Excel now supports multiple values in a single cell

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/excelblog/excel-now-supports-multiple-values-in-a-single-cell/4549756
45•luispa•2h ago
Related: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoft365insider...

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netsharc•1h ago
Hah, AI-written summary? (Using Buzzfeed's 1-sentence-per-paragraph-for-fifth-grade-reading-skills style). The author is "msexcel, Bronze Contributor", and if I click the username I get a "Cannot find current user" (1).

Anyway, adding an extra dimension on a 2-dimensional spreadsheet (rows, columns, and now depth)? Good luck with that.

(1) OK it breaks for all usernames, I guess because it's Microslop...

dang•51m ago
Is https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoft365insider... better? We could swap the URLs.
knollimar•49m ago
You already had sheets in the workbook for depth
bnj•36m ago
I’d like to be able to make a cell into a sheet… like a subsidiary schedule
sublinear•1h ago
> Throughout Excel's 40-year history, you've only been able to put one value per cell. In this announcement, we're excited to share how that's changing with the release of lists, arrays in cells, and nested arrays, initially to Microsoft Excel for Windows and Mac Beta Channels.

This seems like something I'd expect to already exist in Excel, but the way it's being presented makes it sound like they want to murder Excel.

Would anyone be shocked to find out that I've been smuggling JSON in spreadsheets for a long long time and regret nothing?

mlhpdx•6m ago
I have, at the risk of being a meme, put spreadsheets in cells via OLE. It was glorious.
infogulch•55m ago
About time! Should have done this from the start instead of spill. That and being able to index into the multiple values in a cell.
pavel_lishin•49m ago
But can I use multiple slurp juices on a single cell?
oniony•49m ago
Weird, because I remember a job where we had arrays in Excel cells back in 2008.
hyperlinerapp•14m ago
These arrays are IN A SINGLE CELL
lordnacho•49m ago
Users might see it as a good thing to have yet another feature, but this sort of type-softness is why Excel is bad. In general having every feature of a bad thing, you need constraints to design things, to have idioms.

Making everything flexible is what allows you to make spaghetti that nobody understands.

qubex•31m ago
I shall embark upon a quest, and the quest’s object shall be thus: to define multiple lambdas within a list, and thereupon, to make cells downstream depend upon the lamda’s, and to make them in turn become lists or values, and so on, until the whole thing breaks.
seemaze•29m ago
Microsoft is actively harming the laypersons comprehension of their data with 'features' such as this.

Reasoning about the basic shape of data with real estate managers using the Btrieve[0] database on DOS (and then XP) in years gone by was noticeably more straight forward than wrangling the monolithic excel monstrosities encountered today.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrieve

qubex•20m ago
There is an argument to be made somewhere that Microsoft should’ve pressed much more hardly upon Access and the separation between data and operations thereupon than the conglomerate mess that is Excel.
olav•42m ago
Treesheets had this for over 15 years now. https://strlen.com/treesheets/
qubex•33m ago
And Lotus Improv ‘solved’ spreadsheets about thirty-five years ago. So?
NuclearPM•18m ago
So?
qubex•7m ago
I guess “so nothing”. The model is fundamentally broken. Adding a third dimension to certain cells by giving them a new type (‘tuple’, ‘list’?) whilst also having multiple sheets that aren’t (really) addressable is a disaster for the semantics.
drfloyd51•6m ago
But treesheets isn’t used by millions of office workers across the globe. I doubt treesheets is know by 2% of the HN audience. So it just doesn’t make the news.

Or was the point you knew an obscure fact about an obscure application?

qubex•37m ago
The way to do mathematics on computers is via a CAS such as Mathematica. This is misguided pornography. Unfortunately as such it shall do what its implementers intended: for a while embrace, and if not extend, embolden.

And yes, I know Wolfram Language is proprietary too, and, yes, I know Stephen Wolfram is a massive tool, and yes, I know Mathematica licenses are expensive, and yes, I am aware of probably all the criticisms you can level my way and at it and then some in various permutations thereof, but heavens, at least it isn’t this dissolute disaster otherwise known as Excel, where “numbers have a place” but they don’t need to be numbers, and they don’t need to be in a place or have a place, but they break silently whilst you run your hedge fund.

EDIT: As soon as I get my hands on this monstrosity I shall embark upon a voyage to define several lambdas within the same cell as a list, and then make other cells depend upon it, and their type too, to see how far I can push this thing until it breaks.

Sharlin•30m ago
I'm sure someone has already coined a law something like this:

The use of Excel expands until it fills the space of all use cases.

qubex•21m ago
In a rigid lattice, aye.
bnj•33m ago
I’ve recently been experimenting with OnlyOffice as a non-excel alternative that can still support a broad formula set and I’ve been really pleasantly surprised. I want to be able to use an open source spreadsheet system and onlyoffice is surprisingly robust.
Xirdus•26m ago
Are you familiar with LibreOffice? Are there any advantages that OnlyOffice has over other open source spreadsheets?
NuclearPM•18m ago
Same thing
shakna•33m ago
Oh great. More stuff to break the two decade piplelines in the poorly maintained VBA-scripted and now AI-infested sheets that control businesses.
m101•24m ago
What would be a revolution in excel is if we could have probability distributions in cells. Right now all spreadsheets are fairly deterministic and we think that tells us something about the real world. Having an ability to make cells distributions (and then all resultant cells would be distributions too) would represent the uncertainty in the world better (and expose lots of interesting things like distributions of tails)
swader999•21m ago
Reminds me of Oppenheimer: "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds"
havaloc•8m ago
When I read this post earlier, I immediately thought, "don't cross the streams."
jjtheblunt•6m ago
it's the Baghavad Gita, which Oppenheimer quoted. there's a wikipedia link...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita#/media/File:Trin...

drfloyd51•8m ago
Excel just got a z-axis. Cool.
abtinf•7m ago
I didn’t really appreciate excel fully until I worked at a company that forbid software development and had implemented a whitelist policy for executables. VBA was blocked too.

Excel on Windows was the only tool available, outside of offering sacrifices to the high priesthood of IT.

It is a supremely elegant tool capable of deep data integration and extraordinary analysis, if you approach it with an engineer’s mindset.

This was during the time when they started introducing lambda and related functions. Nowadays, Excel is even more of a superpower.

Unfortunately, Excel on Mac is not nearly as good. It has all the features, but it’s missing a lot of the UI needed to use them effectively.

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