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OpenAI Says It Will Not Release Newest A.I. Model Over Safety Concerns

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/28/technology/openai-astra-safety.html
43•jbegley•1h ago

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cyanydeez•1h ago
Sounds a lot like a hostel keeping its virgin for the best customer.
pas•59m ago
brothel?
spiderice•50m ago
Gotta find the right hostels
ToucanLoucan•1h ago
Yawn.
jackb4040•1h ago
I am also not releasing my newest A.I. model over safety concerns. And I'll do it for half what OpenAI will!
jswelker•1h ago
I have the best model, but it lives in Canada, so you wouldn't know it.
welcome_dragon•18m ago
She goes to a different school
4b11b4•54m ago
Haven't even tried Astra, nor GPT 6.. I don't even have fomo anymore

5.6 Sol still cranking along

devin-2030•41m ago
You’re not missing out. Astra was good for a couple of days and is now so quantized it’s often worse than 5.6. And 6 sol is a nothing burger to keep a wedge in the media when Opus 5.5 came out.
xtracto•26m ago
This. We use both opus 5.5 and 6 Sol in a way that allows us to compare their performance. Opus is considerably better.
Kurd•52m ago
Ah shit, here we go again.
spiderice•50m ago
You mean what they said about GPT-2?
welcome_dragon•19m ago
Or 3 or 4 lol
jeanpah•47m ago
The marketing team on openai it's running out of ideas?
RunSet•39m ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbOckHiVXZc
kelseyfrog•43m ago
I have a project that requires a model with at least a 20% chance of existential threat. Please release this Sama.
fallingfrog•42m ago
Lots of people seem to have the bizarre opinion that companies like openai declare their own products to be unsafe as some kind of marketing stunt.

Ok- so when is the last time you saw an auto company decide not to release its new car on the grounds that some tragic engineering error was made and the cars were not safe to drive? If the company did that do you imagine it would be good for business?

I'm trying to understand the logic here.

cobbzilla•40m ago
Because no car company would ever announce they had an unsafe car. They’d fix the problem and announce an awesome car.
alexfortin•40m ago
Hype: you tell the world you alone have a very powerful and potentially dangerous product, and you're the only one who can be trusted keeping it safe.
RunSet•36m ago
I would consider it more "bizarre" to assume that Sam Altman was telling the truth about anything.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240112010809/https://www.sfchr...

zmgsabst•29m ago
There are cars that market based on only being track legal — and even more that market on requiring being tuned down for street safety.

Most sports cars do the second, exactly like OpenAI.

prettyblocks•39m ago
I remember when they promised to slow down and released a new model less than a week later.
idbnstra•22m ago
Or when they didn’t release thinking models until deepseek was first released
outside1234•34m ago
Isn’t this like the twentieth model they said this about?

Are they sure it isn’t because they are setting money on fire and have no business model?

bluealienpie•30m ago
My lobster is too buttery and delicious as well.
ChrisArchitect•25m ago
Earlier source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49885133
OutOfHere•24m ago
OpenAI will have to keep releasing unless it wants to bleed customers. If Anthropic leaps ahead by a couple of more models, even more OpenAI users will then switch over their $100+ subscription from OpenAI to Anthropic. Just see what happened to Google.

The safety concerns exist only because the underlying third-party servers are grossly insecure to begin with.

chis•23m ago
Really inspiring comments guys, really looking connected to reality on this one.
nonethewiser•20m ago
This is an inherent feature of "alignment." It's always been bullshit.

Just align it to do what the customer wants.

beej71•13m ago
Prompt: "Based on similar announcements delaying the release of frontier models as 'too dangerous', when can we expect OpenAI to release the model they announced was too dangerous today?"
augment_me•7m ago
We got Mythos 1 week after the "too dangerous" announcement at the firm I was at during that time(larger bank).

So the danger level is proportionate to how little money you have

tancky•12m ago
"Too dangerous to release" until an open-weight model replicates it two weeks later.
option•8m ago
lol, nevermind then
senectus1•4m ago
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1-6•3m ago
In other words: "We're compute constrained and we've already reached an asymptote."
dlcarrier•2m ago
It uses dangerously too few tokens to provide the same level of response as the previous version.
kennywinker•29m ago
At the moment, their main "customer" is investors, not users. But even users want to use the most dangerous model, because dangerous is just another word for powerful.

Sports cars are advertised with how fast they can accelerate from time to time, or tesla's "ludicrous mode" - that is them advertising how dangerous it is.

symfoniq•26m ago
Car companies sell mostly the same car every year. They don’t have billions (or trillions) of dollars of debt riding on the next model they release being substantially better and cheaper (closer to profitability) than the previous one.

These AI companies have been selling AGI as coming any day for a while now. If it doesn’t arrive soon, the safety angle may be the only spin that keeps the massive (and required) investments pouring in.

If instead the narrative became that LLM progress was slowing, we’d almost certainly be looking at the next global recession.

At this point, there is too much money in AI for the truth to have much of a chance.

adfgaiu•17m ago
Motorcycle manufacturers have been known to do so. Riding a motorcycle is thrilling in part because it is dangerous. The fact that powerful motorcycles are so difficult to control that most people have no business owning one is absolutely used to make them sound cool and desirable.

For instance, this article repeatedly mentions danger and the need for absolute focus and control:

https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/for-the-ride/news/inspi...

There is also a parallel (though not a very close one) to "pacing the frontier": there's a gentleman's agreement that limits the top speed of motorcycles to 300 kph (186 mph) because of concern that faster bikes would be unsafe enough to bring about a regulatory crackdown.

viraptor•14m ago
Different type of business. Many car companies release new cars showing you how much more powerful and implied dangerous they are. Both in capabilities and design style. In the US (other places too , but especially) they also get much bigger with less visibility which gets double dangerous. But the sentiment they're going for is pretty close - "you want this powerful thing, don't you?"
adfgaiu•13m ago
>In the US they also get much bigger with less visibility.

Those are usually presented as an improvement in safety. And they are—for the people inside. Not so much for everyone else.

Dylan16807•9m ago
> so when is the last time you saw an auto company decide not to release its new car on the grounds that some tragic engineering error was made and the cars were not safe to drive?

How about we actually try to make it sound cool? They're not releasing the new car because the horsepower was too much, they need more time to get it under control.

I could easily see a car company doing that.

antihipocrat•1m ago
Because they declare that their product is unsafe regularly, which gains massive exposure on every news outlet worldwide, then they release the model anyway with zero negative repercussions.

What's with so many people using bad analogies to try and explain simple topics?

Last time this happened: GPT - 4 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/17/openai-sa...

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