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Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2026/
206•solarist•3h ago•65 comments

Release of Polars 2.0

https://pola.rs/posts/release-polars-2/
53•simicd•1h ago•7 comments

JetBrains reported a net financial loss first time in its tracked history

https://www.helgilibrary.com/companies/jetbrains
148•thw_9a83c•1h ago•130 comments

Gleam doesn't compile to Erlang source anymore

https://gleam.run/news/gleam-doesnt-compile-to-erlang-source-anymore/
104•ingve•5h ago•20 comments

Nature's capacity to 'bounce back' when species are lost is vastly overestimated

https://phys.org/news/2026-10-nature-capacity-species-lost-vastly.html
58•pseudolus•2h ago•20 comments

Beam: Reflection's 501B open-weight model

https://reflection.ai/blog/introducing-beam
484•Philpax•18h ago•156 comments

Find the flattest route between any two points in SF

https://flattensf.com/
238•ishan0102•15h ago•81 comments

World's First enhanced geothermal power plant completed in just 23 months

https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/01/worlds-first-enhanced-geothermal-power-plant-completed-in-just-...
36•hochmartinez•1h ago•4 comments

Dust: Pretraining Transformers Without Backpropagation

https://qlabs.sh/research/dust
232•E-Reverance•16h ago•61 comments

Friendship ended with Deno, now Node is my best friend

https://dbushell.com/2026/10/03/deno-to-node/
222•ibobev•14h ago•137 comments

Accountability mechanisms can be joyful (2024)

https://liquidbrain.net/blog/accountability-and-joy/
56•luu•2d ago•16 comments

Web Search API

https://developers.cloudflare.com/changelog/post/2026-10-02-introducing-web-search-api/
566•tosh•1d ago•264 comments

Opus 5.5 agents discover two room-temperature magnetic semiconductor candidates

https://www.vals.ai/blogs/room-temperature-magnetic-semiconductors
401•outlier99•16h ago•268 comments

ASOS app users receive push notifications apparently sent by hackers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj62ylzpr6d3o
46•helsinkiandrew•3h ago•29 comments

Using A.I. and machine learning to decode communication of sperm whales

https://blue-continuum.com/the-man-who-listens-to-whales
51•dnetesn•2d ago•32 comments

Resurrecting iChat Audio and Video Conferencing

https://blog.pipetogrep.org/2026/09/11/resurrecting-ichat-audio-and-video-conferencing/
74•thepipetogrep•9h ago•15 comments

Testing 12 different Zigbee temperature/humidity sensors

https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/best-selling-zigbee-temperature-sensors-tested/
148•walrus01•2d ago•81 comments

Example.com just launched the biggest redesign in decades

https://www.debugbear.com/blog/example-dot-com-redesign-history
263•jgx0•14h ago•171 comments

Competitive Programmer's Handbook (2018) [pdf]

https://cses.fi/book/book.pdf
241•vinhnx•2d ago•56 comments

Direct retinal projection display for smart glasses using a meta-optic mirror

https://www.tdk.com/en/news_center/press/20261002_01.html
51•bookofjoe•2d ago•16 comments

Meta's Muse Is an Adorable Privacy and Security Dumpster Fire

https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/06/metas-muse-is-an-adorable-privacy-and-security-dumpster-fire/
4•beardyw•31m ago•0 comments

The complement of true is true, except when it's false

https://dryperspective.github.io/posts/complement-of-true/
34•aw1621107•2d ago•6 comments

The lamps in my house

https://arslan.io/2026/10/05/the-lamps-in-my-house/
242•farslan•23h ago•102 comments

Why Common Lisp is now the best programming language

https://www.vivienhenz.com/common-lisp
235•misterchocolat•10h ago•294 comments

Show HN: Entombed in a Raycaster

https://www.stelabouras.com/blog/entombed-raycaster/
32•stelabouras•3d ago•6 comments

An algorithmic failure beneath the secret ballot

https://blog.citp.princeton.edu/2026/08/03/an-algorithmic-failure-beneath-the-secret-ballot/
97•leecoursey•2d ago•73 comments

DEDA – Tracking Dots Extraction, Decoding and Anonymisation Toolkit

https://github.com/dfd-tud/deda
78•greyface-•2d ago•9 comments

Ephemeral Testing

https://lemire.me/blog/2026/10/05/ephemeral-testing/
71•ibobev•14h ago•25 comments

Apple and a hacker's future

https://stratechery.com/2026/apple-and-a-hackers-future/
276•maguay•1d ago•235 comments

Samon: Designing a Zen Garden Raking Puzzle

https://gwern.net/doc/design/2026-10-03-gwern-samon.html
51•networked•13h ago•24 comments
Open in hackernews

JetBrains reported a net financial loss first time in its tracked history

https://www.helgilibrary.com/companies/jetbrains
140•thw_9a83c•1h ago

Comments

theappsecguy•45m ago
Wow, this really sucks. With all the money flocking to companies that trained LLMs on stolen data, we may lose the only set of IDEs that offer high quality professional development tools
sebzim4500•41m ago
Their revenue is still going up so I don't think that's it.
the__alchemist•38m ago
I'm surprised that the word "only" still applies. I have my laments about JB (PyCharm / RR): Mainly centered around performance. Yet it has no competition! Whenever I read about VsCode, or Zed as alternatives, I feel disbelief, as they're not in the same league.

Zed in particular, from the way it was described upon release, sounded like it should have been a JB competitor. Reality: It can't even move functions or structs!

gonzalohm•31m ago
How is vscode not in the same league? JB feels way too bloated and slow and doesn't add anything significant over other offerings
ipsod•27m ago
Code intelligence (find usages, go to definition, refactor/rename/move, etc.) and debugging are on another level - more powerful, more reliable, with more edge-cases covered.

At least, that was so in dynamic languages, like Python, and PHP, last I checked.

gomoboo•24m ago
It's not even close. vscode can approximate JB IDEs but that takes pulling in plugins on your own, managing their configuration, and adapting when the setup inevitably breaks. JB IDEs bake in everything you can get via vscode plugins with documentation, a cohesive experience, and regular maintenance to keep them working for you. Concrete examples that are better in JB land for me: git conflict resolution, refactoring (in numerous ways), jumping to definitions, finding usages (especially on Python projects).
ipsod•11m ago
> It's not even close.

That's always been my experience. Not even close. One gives you legos that lets you make a plastic toy, and the other is an industrial machine shop for code.

I thought maybe I was holding VSCode wrong, though.

the__alchemist•6m ago
> I thought maybe I was holding VSCode wrong, though.

Likewise (Same with zed). I've given them a thorough try several times, assuming I was holding it wrong as you say based on conversations with others who use them effectively. I've reached the conclusion you say here each time.

matsemann•23m ago
Maybe there exist better ways, but I'd say every coworker I've seen in a VScode variant uses freetext search to find everything.
sebzim4500•27m ago
I think you are going to get a lot of pushback from people using e.g. typescript, for which VS Code is pretty good.

For languages like kotlin, java and even python JB is still way ahead of the competition.

onlyrealcuzzo•36m ago
Only?

Microsoft's stuff is quite good, or you've got a really high bar.

caaqil•33m ago
> Microsoft

> quite good

Good one.

pluc•29m ago
Happy to hate on MS as much as the next guy but VSCode is pretty much the Chrome of the IDE world at this point, that might be what parent was alluding to (since I'd struggle to defend any other Microsoft software).
Sharlin•29m ago
VSCode is not an IDE. It's a text editor with some optional bells and whistles. I presume the GP refers to the actual Visual Studio.
taspeotis•24m ago
Visual Studio is less shit than ever, but only after JetBrains gave MS a firm kick up the ass with Rider.
folkrav•6m ago
It's got an editor, a debugger, code intelligence, a debugger, terminal, task running, test explorer, refactoring tools, project management, and so on. What's an IDE if not a text editor with bells and whistles?
efficax•45m ago
Engineers abandoning IDEs or did they burn a ton of cash on AI?
1899-12-30•44m ago
given that their revenue is still increasing, I'm guessing it's the latter
onionisafruit•30m ago
Their revenue is increasing, but their profits have been on a decline despite increased revenue. The table on that page only goes back to 2021, but the trend of increasing revenue and decreasing profits has been going on at least that long. I don’t think ai would have been a factor that far back. Even though github copilot did launch sometime around then, I doubt it was much of a factor.
patadura•43m ago
Like or not, LLM are getting better a debugging than humans... Not sure for how long will companies will keep paying for IDEs (which, tbf, are peanuts compared to the LLM cost).
ThatPlayer•42m ago
Why not both?

If engineers are abandoning IDEs then shouldn't they be following the engineers?

mrweasel•42m ago
What stands out to me is https://www.helgilibrary.com/companies/jetbrains/total-cash-...

I have no idea what that contains, but it appears to be a rather large dip, compared to previous years. Overall it's not really that interesting without context and commentary from JetBrains.

perbu•44m ago
Software is changing. It would be a good time to invest rather than to focus on the bottom line. Their revenue is up.

I’m not surprised.

keel-control•42m ago
they're finished
bdavbdav•41m ago
Why? Revenue still up. Investment.
markus_zhang•42m ago
I don't think they can compete with AI IDEs. They should maybe focus on the niche that they are good at, and completely get rid of anything ML/AI related. It's going to be a lot cheaper.

It's better to be the king of a niche.

maxdo•40m ago
like what , manually refactor code in hours, when agent can do it for you in minutes, or setting up debug/dev env when agent can also do that for you?
Applejinx•15m ago
Manually refactor code in days if need be, when you have something specific in mind and intend a particular result.

'refactor' isn't just a blender. If I wanted agentic coding I would just do that. I'm quite happy for other people to so completely entangle themselves in agentic coding that they can't get out. Please proceed.

to add: I'm a paying JetBrains customer, but they could lose me if they vibecode themselves into a pile of slop. I'm not sure they're doing that, even if they're dabbling in it. I think there's still expertise there.

Theodores•38m ago
This would make sense for me, as a long time Jetbrains user and not desiring to use AI for anything apart from single line code completion, which the current Jetbrains tools do quite well.

I have used their support before, to be extremely impressed. This is an area that they could differentiate themselves in.

jcmontx•42m ago
IDEs are on a steep decline, so not so surprising. I've disabled most code extensions from vscode and find myself using multiple terminals and the built in git diff UI. I barely see the code _as a whole_, only care about the _code_ changes.

edit: added the extra words + I must mention I'm talking about legacy maintenance projects

bdavbdav•41m ago
All the death knell comments - Is no one looking at the revenue line? Revenue still trending the same. Costs presumably haven't skyrocketed. They've invested in something big. Thats probably a good thing, and often needed to evolve.
snarfy•38m ago
probably ai related
jeroenhd•37m ago
Jetbrains has been pushing Junie real hard, my guess is that they've been giving out too many cheap tokens to try to stay relevant as Claude and friends pull people away from the IDE.
ipsod•31m ago
Has anyone had a good experience with Junie, to share?

I've tried it, and it seemed fine, but not compelling enough to even spend the free usage I get with my All Products Pack.

jeroenhd•27m ago
Worked fine as a free tool, but as long as AI companies are selling their slopware tokens below cost with subscriptions, it's not really that interesting in my opinion.

The Jetbrains integration is nice, but if you rely on the tool you're probably not going to use the IDE much anyway.

matsemann•25m ago
It felt quite competitive about a year ago. But haven't tried it since, no idea how it has held up with the other advancing. What I liked was the tight integration with the IDE. I don't particularly like the way I work with Claude now, still wanting to check the changes, navigate code, ask questions, write some code myself etc. Feel claude mostly is for the "bigger" changes. Sometimes I just want to select some text and refactor it, or ask a stupid simple question without the "chat".
maxdo•41m ago
why this is a surprise? I have 0 reasons to buy IDE in 2026.

Their main moat was smart refactor, and a few other nice tools to debug. regardless of what you think about coding is done, agents and your harness is the best tool. I heard they doing business accelerator to find a new business ideas. But as a company, hardly imagine anyone buying expensive IDE in 2 years. Why?

cbg0•35m ago
> regardless of what you think about coding is done, agents and your harness is the best tool.

I guess you're all in on that Anthropic IPO with the "coding is solved" approach.

greyw•28m ago
There will always be people that write code with pen and paper. Its going to be an art form though rather than something productive.
jen20•24m ago
> why this is a surprise? I have 0 reasons to buy IDE in 2026.

If the first part follows the second, the surprise is that revenue is up while the prevailing opinion appears to be "no-one needs to buy an IDE".

LogicArsenal•41m ago
Revenue is up. Looks like they took on a lot of debt. What did they spend it on?
runetech•40m ago
I still love my IDEA & Rider, but a lot of my attention has moved to VSCode with Claude Code plugin. The Claude plugin/tooling for these IDE's is abysmal in comparison (talking strictly about the Claude Code experience here - not the bundlende AI Assistant.

I am not moving away from JetBrains anytime soon, but it does gets harder to justify when I spend considerable time in a competing offering that has better experience and is free...

saadn92•40m ago
Yep, I don't remember the last time I opened up an IDE anymore. I mainly built my own open source AI coding orchestrator lol: https://github.com/saadnvd1/agent-os

The landscape is changing significantly, and I think these types of tools will become more popular.

NoHedgeAllBets•39m ago
Unfortunate because they make great products, but also expected given AI. A bit like Nokia, they're a great company that didn't do anything particularly wrong but they got swept by a superior technology.
fidotron•39m ago
Android Studio always was Google acquisition bait, but now they are going to need to be more serious about it.
giancarlostoro•38m ago
They keep trying to bite into AI but they should focus on making their tools more stable and should have invested more into Kotlin Native, could of had a fully native IDE and tooling by now and purged reliance on the JVM.

They could have bought out Cursor early on too.

jadar•37m ago
I still haven’t found an IDE that I feel really helps me develop with AI better than the command line. I have built bespoke tools that work the way I want. But a really good integrated solution would blow my current workflow out of the water. No one seems to have built an IDE with deep support for worktrees, parallel session, walking me thru diffs, and optionally handing control back to me to write the occasional hand-written code myself. Plus most of my work is done on mobile, so Jetbrains has an amazing opportunity…but they seem to be chasing the competition instead of focusing on their moat.
the__alchemist•35m ago
It feels like JB is trying that, but it hasn't materialized in a way I understand yet; they have a handful of AI tools, and I don't fully understand them at this point, nor how they integrate and what roles they fill. (June, Air, AI asssistant, AI autocomplete)
thr0w•31m ago
Sublime was/is still the best, unfortunately had to finally abandon it due to lack of first-class agent support. Hard to find something that emphasizes core text editing first and that doesn't constantly have some new update to apply on start that may break or change something.
ipaddr•18m ago
Using Claude to write and sublime to review isn't a bad combo.
caaqil•30m ago
> most of my work is done on mobile

Can anything serious/complex be done on mobile? I'm genuinely curious. It's seems bizzare in the context of IDE and tooling discussion.

jt2190•37m ago
I’m trying to contextualize this information. JetBrains isn’t publicly traded best as I can tell, and these numbers come from other public filings:

> Figures are the company's own (unconsolidated) statutory statements filed with the Czech business register…

Are these as reliable as the U.S. 10K or its European equivalent?

I assume that a company like JetBrains would be investing in shifting products around A.I., so it doesn’t seem too surprising that they don’t report a profit for 2025.

serial_dev•33m ago
They only need to have some hundreds of billions of loss extra, and they might be the next big thing!
conradfr•31m ago
A bit tongue-in-cheek but I'm amazed by people that don't open an IDE or look at code. Are you paid to press enter at anything that Claude present to you?

Personally I usually use Claude inside the Jetbrain's IDE terminal, even if I code by hand obviously less. I still like using the diff, navigation, quick access to any file path for my prompt etc but maybe that won't last.

(edit: although I currently use an old perpetual fallback license because I didn't like the last price increase especially as they remove what I like in the UI)

ipsod•21m ago
I'm paid to produce software that has features and works.

Nobody cares how I get there or how ugly the code is. They care how fast I can do it and how reliable the software is.

I look at code sometimes, in down time, to see what's been done terribly by AI, and to fix it and hopefully fix the process so that things don't get done terribly in that particular way in the future.

swozey•6m ago
Whats your YOE, like when did you enter tech as a SWE?
poncho_romero•5m ago
It's not about "how ugly the code is". Poor solutions heaped on top of poor solutions can result in a system with real users and intractable issues. I'm all for AI, but not reviewing the code seems likely to cause issues long term.
patwolf•7m ago
I used to use Claude inside of a terminal within Webstorm until I realized I rarely looked at the code in the IDE. Instead I was creating draft PRs and reviewing the code in github. Now I use claude inside of herdr, and I appreciate having more screen real estate devoted to claude. As a long-time Jetbrains subscriber it pains me to stop using it. But at this point, I'm not sure what they could come up with that would be compelling enough for me to switch back.
olejorgenb•31m ago
Jetbrains lost our entire (small) team a few years back when they completely neglected (no, to minimal progress for years) their typehint support in PyCharm. I think they now finally have caught up somewhat judging from the updated on all the issues in youtrack I'm still subscribed to.
swozey•14m ago
What did your python people move to from pycharm? Every team I've worked on has been about 30% python (70% go) and the python people have always had pycharm installed and ready to go for their python days.

I've always had a personal ultimate sub even though I use vscode 99%. There would be a lot more ultimate subs barely used like mine if they weren't 3-4x the price of the singles. I've never felt justified in asking for ultimates business price for how little I use it, but my teams always have a pycharm license.

zdc1•31m ago
The real surprise is how small their balance sheet is given they're such a well known and loved name. 16m CZK is 0.7m USD annual revenue.

There are companies where you'd rather be the owner, and others where you'd rather be an employee, or a customer. I think the JetBrain's customers are the real winners in this one.

jen20•25m ago
> 6m CZK is 0.7m USD annual revenue.

It's 16,000 * 1 million CZK, so ~730m USD, no?

borplk•20m ago
0.7M USD annual revenue for Jetbrains? That can't be right. Their annual revenue is 400M+ USD from my quick search.
zkmon•25m ago
An IDE connects a human coder to the development process. If the role of that coder changes in that process, the IDE connection is not going to be as heavy as it used to be.
xmpir•24m ago
Impressive European business with ~750m USD in revenues and global footprint. Hope they innovate themselves into profitability again
chii•16m ago
The new AI script-kiddies might not be in the target market for purchasing an IDE, so i think their customer base may potentially be shrinking.

Which is a shame really - this is similar to old blacksmithing tools.

havblue•23m ago
It isn't as much the price of a license as much as the time it takes to get approval for newer engineers and contractors. You can just say, "we use vs code with these extensions and wsl2" and the discussion is over.
micromacrofoot•21m ago
All the air is getting sucked out of software companies due to AI, I'm seeing it happen in a number of places. Though in this case it may be due to their own AI investment on internal projects.
leobuskin•21m ago
It's purely management fault, it happened around 2022-2023. They had all the chances to become a great agentic IDE/harness at some point, if they would start in time, support plugin developers, allocate a proper team instead of 2 people and some semi-random internships. A lot of users were questioning this publicly and privately with them, we all knew how it will end this way. JetBrains lost, no one wants their Junie in 2026 (and didn't want in 2024-2025, whatever was the name of the integration at that time, it was awful). I was on Ultimate Plan since 2012, appx. I quit entirely in 2024. They asked to answer a few surveys over the last few years - even the questions there were far from reality. RIP, JetBrains, it's mostly unrecoverable at this point.
dhruv_ahuja•17m ago
What IDEs and harnesses do you use now? I assume you would have had a lot of your classic coding workflows dependant on the jetbrains suite
leobuskin•9m ago
CC + my own custom tools, I don't see any reason to pay for devtools in 2026 (same as trying to monetize them, or even just share/distribute). My first custom solution was built on top of JB's core in early 2024, btw, but not any more. JetBrains "suite" doesn't really lock you in, it's more like "aura" of the product itself that made me attached for almost 13 years (I never was able to switch, I still think VS Code is so ugly and counter-intuitive in comparison with JB).
swader999•11m ago
This along with stack overflow seems to be the end of an era. Stack overflow had my back and JetBrains was like a super magical tool that I could tackle code bases with.
synthc•11m ago
I would love if the Jetbrains IDE's got really good agent integration, all their code analysis could have amazing synergy with LLM's, Unfortunatly for now I disabled all AI features as it was slowing my IDE (JetBrains) to a crawl.
pelagicAustral•11m ago
They need to put a whole lot of love in Junie, but even at that Warp is already miles ahead... so playing catch up is going to be a tough one.
igleria•10m ago
loss size must be correlated with the memory usage of webstorm on my work machine...
stingraycharles•9m ago
That’s interesting, as we have just completed a huge migration of our CI/CD infrastructure off Teamcity, for plenty of reasons but “we’re paying a shit ton of money for this and it’s a pain in the ass” was a major one.

They seem to be very bloated and unable to modernize their product lines.

ActionHank•7m ago
Interesting, what did you migrate to? We've had mixed results in reliability between ADO and Github actions.
jazdw•6m ago
I've been thinking about doing the same, what did you migrate to? I was thinking GitHub actions but the outage yesterday reinforced that it might be a bad idea.
rfgplk•5m ago
No disrespect meant, but I don't see how companies like JetBrains can survive (and I've read their financial statements, their revenue growth is still decent). All their revenue comes from products and services that are effectively a long-form agentic session, proven by how many OSS replicas of their stack is out there. Their Junie agent (itself a replica of all other agents on the market) can ITSELF be replicated in a few dozen prompts, as evidenced by the 1000+ GitHub agent repos out there, most of whom are operated by a single college student. What's worse is that JetBrains' primary customer base is supposed to be composed of technical users and developers, the exact cohort that should be skilled enough to use LLMs to replicate their services for effectively zero cost. I guess the only thing that's saving them is inertia and goodwill.
szatkus•15m ago
It's really not an option in Javaland.
onlyrealcuzzo•29m ago
It's almost as if a company can have good and bad products...

Microsoft has had a very long reputation (for good reason) for having good developer tooling, even if Windows was not particularly developer friendly...

Sharlin•29m ago
Mostly constrained to a single ecosystem and dev/deployment platform - a platform that has never been particularly great for development and has been made vastly less so in the recent years.
SkyPuncher•41m ago
I have paid out of pocket for Jetbrains for 15 years. I don’t think I’ve opened it in the past year and should probably cancel my subscription.

For me, the things that made Jebteains great just don’t matter anymore.

kugelblitz•39m ago
What do you use then?

I still use it a lot for reviewing the code.

KptMarchewa•34m ago
It is a good code viewer but way too heavy if you want to switch between branches often on a sufficiently large product.
cbg0•9m ago
You'll be surprised (or not) to find out a lot of people aren't using anything. Claude gets asked to build it, then some other clown uses their copy of Claude to do the PR review and then it gets merged.
vachina•41m ago
The truth is there is no money to be made from (good) offline software.
InsideOutSanta•39m ago
I find IntelliJ IDEA a great tool, even for my fully vibecoded apps. I edit the READMEs in it, look at the version history, use it for debugging, for builds, and so on.

My guess is that people aren't abandoning their IDEs. Their market is probably growing. I suspect they're burning money on subsidized inference, just like everybody else.

romanovcode•8m ago
Both
Blackthorn•20m ago
Not personally but Junie was what made the fellow developer I respect most in the world actually start taking notice of LLMs as something useful instead of bad.
PaulHoule•19m ago
I enjoyed it a lot early on. In particular it didn’t have all the confusing and anxiety inducing options that other agents have to use more expensive or less expensive models, I liked the way it approached “plan mode” [1] and I didn’t feel like I had to stress it about token costs the way I do with the other models…. Jetbrains now gives me a choice of agents which I don’t like because having to think about it makes feel like one of those “ai bros” who is overthinking their relationship to ai and underthinking their code.

I would like to see one more ide-integrated, like I think running commands like ‘grep’ with the shell is really for the birds (creates a risk that some other command line might be run, the wrong files might be accessed, all that) and rather there should be a specialized toolbox.

[1] … I reject vibe coding. Token costs be damned but I always like to have a talk before it starts like “I think…, maybe you should…, does this make sense?, do you have any questions for me before you start?” and later “what are you doing in the code in the selection?”

poncho_romero•12m ago
I think Junie is comparable to something like Claude Code or Codex, but moving a little slower feature wise. It's perfectly adequate for developers who want to use AI but don't want to keep up with the bleeding edge of tooling.
surgical_fire•7m ago
I used it for a bit.

It is alright to get an LLM review on code I write myself, but getting extra tokens is expensive, and it was not clear if I could configure it to use one of the API keys I have from GLM, MiMo, etc.

I tried Air as well. It was alright, but I found it a bit more cumbersome to use then Pi. I tried configuring Pi to be accessed though ACP, but it felt like going through a hoop to have a worse experience. Then again, I am not someone that manages multiple agents in parallel, at most I have one agent implementing something in a different repository while I am doing my own things.

Air could maybe be useful for me if I could plug in the LLMs I actually use directly, it is too tied to ChatGPT, Claude, etc.

jermaustin1•5m ago
In everyone's day jobs where they used an IDE 5 years ago, or even a year ago, are those jobs abandoning the IDE?

I still use Visual Studio in my day job, where Claude's output while VERY helpful, requires my ownership of everything, meaning I am inspecting every single line it changes. If a change is bigger than I think it should, I kill it before I commit.

I know I don't HAVE to use an IDE for that, but if the change is small enough, I am faster than asking Claude to understand the subtext behind my personal context of the product, and the IDE is supremely helpful for making a quick change across a handful of files.

mjr00•34m ago
Yeah look at the details below. Revenue is up 6% (which is not amazing but still growth). But staff expenses are up 34.2%. And the real big hint is "Cash Flow From Investing" plunging from -83 million $USD to -469. That's massive. They're staffing up and investing in... something.
usrusr•26m ago
> and investing in... something.

Reads like aimlessly burning whatever they felt they were able to burn without existential risk on some "also ran" LLM sinkhole.

In other words: nothing to see here, same as everybody else.

echelon•21m ago
> without existential risk

To do nothing is to die. I've been a JetBrains subscriber for over a decade. Nobody is going to use their tools in five years. I certainly don't need my subscription anymore.

> on some "also ran" LLM sinkhole.

They can't do Junie. It's a dead end. They can't do the same thing everyone else is doing either, or they're exactly as you put it: an "also ran" in a very crowded field.

The only way for JetBrains to survive is to figure out their Garmin play. They either find some niche within the existing product or - maybe (and very improbably) - they can innovate something wild nobody else has figured out yet that provides a path to new fertile pasture. But that's more the startup path than the thriving incumbent facing innovator's dilemma path.

But no matter what, if they stay the course, they're dead. Just like half the people expecting to still be writing code by hand.

watwut•9m ago
> Just like half the people expecting to still be writing code by hand.

I know this is not your main point, but common.

If this is true, AI would be the first tech impossible to learn 5 years after it appeared.

sporedro•4m ago
I love their tools and am keeping my subscription for now, but would have to agree.

VSCode has been eating at their users for years now. Jetbrains tools still were much better in my opinion but they are competing with “free” and “good enough”. With AI getting better, the main advantages of Jetbrains are gone.

I don’t need a massive IDE anymore. I still need an editor, but there’s hundreds of better tools for quick edits than a massive IDE.

It’s a company at the end of the day, but I hope they find a niche or pull a Garmin play like you said, otherwise I don’t see them being relevant.

mschuster91•4m ago
> Nobody is going to use their tools in five years.

What will replace it? The dumpster fire called Eclipse, certainly not. The even larger dumpster fire that is Electron, also not. And "vibe coding", "agentic AI" etc. will also be a thing of the past once the VC money spigot selling tokens for far below actual cost dries up.

The JetBrains portfolio is here to stay.

simoncion•24m ago
> ...the real big hint is "Cash Flow From Investing" plunging from -83 million $USD to -469. That's massive. They're staffing up and investing in... something.

...or they're bailing out of really bad investments before they become even worse ones...

echelon•33m ago
RustRover used to be my daily driver.

Now it's Claude Code and ever so occasionally Codex.

I never do work in IDEs by hand anymore. I stopped writing code entirely in February and I will likely never write code again unless my internet dies.

I need a JetBrains-level AST navigator that focuses on high level code navigation and understanding, and moreover on code and architectural review. I need to quickly scan diffs and quickly see architecture at a glance.

Of course even that too many eventually fall away.

I rarely open RustRover these days. I could never have predicted that.

user43928•17m ago
Not sure who downvoted this. JetBrains IDEs are done for.

I don't even remember the last time I opened them, I cancelled my All Products pack this year.

The advantage it had over vscode was always the better language features and the familiar UI.

None of that is useful to me in AI based workflows. Some might still disagree, but the manual development workflow using an IDE is clearly dying.

JetBrain's revenue will obviously crater as a result, particularly when slower enterprise licenses follow.

echelon•12m ago
> Not sure who downvoted this.

Half of HN hates AI.

A large percentage thinks that the current status quo is how things will look over the next decade. They don't think everything is fundamentally and irreversibly changing.

Nobody is coming out of this with the same career. The whole world is being rewired. Some people really don't like that.

I'm just glad we're out of the web platform / cellphone incrementalism era. I wish more of my career could have been spent with this rocket fuel. It's dangerous and hypergolic, but it's fun and flashy and capable of pulling us out of this gravity well.

swozey•9m ago
This is like watching weekend car tinkerers argue with Ferrari mechanics about their tooling. "I'm never going to write code ever again."
poncho_romero•8m ago
I "code" using Codex but I still use PHPStorm for checking diffs, database access, reviewing PRs, and the debugger. The value proposition has changed, not disappeared.
mjr00•7m ago
> Not sure who downvoted this.

If you've been on HN long enough you recognize that the OP is quite prolific in making absurd claims about AI: infamously predicted that children would be making professional, Hollywood level films by the end of 2025, and is now spending their time building the 5000th barely functional clone of Adobe tools[0]. It's probably a little unfair, but they are bold claims from someone who really does not have the ground to be making bold claims.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49958850

bakugo•33m ago
Or more likely, they're burning cash trying to chase the AI train to no avail while their core product stagnates, which is definitely not a good thing.
echelon•29m ago
There won't be anyone left to pay for the core product.

Coding by hand is for dinosaurs.

JetBrains needs to figure out the AI workflow that developers will be using over the next decade. Assuming that's going to be a big enough market, of course. A bigger market might be to build for agents and completely autonomous use cases.

Bridged7756•4m ago
IDEs are for professionals. I understand that LLMs can one shot a weather app, and I get that it's exciting, but this is not the case with complex software.
moomin•29m ago
Oh, they don't need a reason to let the core product stagnate. They've been doing that for years.
FeloniousHam•18m ago
I only use their DataGrip product. Compared to the competition they are iterating at lightspeed.
poncho_romero•10m ago
The war in Ukraine and subsequent move to Czechia did seem to hurt them pretty badly, but I wouldn't say they are stagnant. I've been a happy customer of PHPStorm for years and it continues to improve.
sofixa•6m ago
Tbf their core product is at risk by everyone and their mom having an "AI IDE" product.
jm4•19m ago
Apparently, no one commenting knows how to read financial statements. They look at one item and assume the company is going out of business. Meanwhile, their total assets have increased. Cost of services have increased significantly over recent years - mostly commensurate with revenue growth, although the gap has been shrinking. Operating costs have been pretty flat. I don't have time to investigate where they spent the money, but the company is not at risk. They brought in more money than in prior years and spent it on something. That's it.
binlog•5m ago
> They've invested in something big

Wonder what the "something big" could be that companies are throwing money into in 2026.

gaybees•28m ago
Maybe something like delta? This is still pretty new from the folks that make Zed, but looks promising and would address some of the things you mention https://delta.dev/
alfg•23m ago
Same. I feel like JetBrains has an advantage here, so I'm hoping they're working on something compelling. The traditional IDE setup is quickly dying.

I'm usually working between VSCode and Codex/Claude Code at the same time, but find myself mostly in latter these days.

poncho_romero•16m ago
I think this is what JetBrains Air is supposed to be. I haven't had a chance to test it but it seems promising.

https://www.jetbrains.com/air/

quantiq•11m ago
It still suffers the same problems as Junie, which is that their harness is far too bloated.
xnorswap•10m ago
Right now there's a huge friction with IDEs, that if I have it open while claude is working on something, then any caches it has get stale very quickly, and it churns processing trying to keep up with edits.

Any leverage that claude could benefit from LSPs or language/AST MCPs is undone by that tooling not being able to keep up or stay fresh, so the IDE just "runs hot" for no purpose.

Which means I'm incentivised to close my IDE while claude is working, and now I've got used to not looking at the code.

Like you, I really want a system that works better. I want claude to search and edit through better tooling, it would be faster, more accurate, and should in theory be able to leverage compilers to apply edits better and more accurately.

I don't want claude wasting an awful lot of time grepping for things that a compiler cache can answer, but if that compiler cache can't keep up then it's actively harmful.

I'm sure there must be a better way, there must be a way to have smarter more change-aware cache invalidation, and smarter more cache-aware claude tool use, but so far none has happened.

Long term I'm sure the pairing will emerge, but unfortunately I don't think that's going to come from the IDE vendor side, it'll have to come out of some harness research lab, where Anthropic or a competitor finds a way to reliably leverage this stuff for a speed and accuracy boost.

It's completely bonkers to me that an LLM can almost "natively" read profiler output, but doing so involves vast amounts of text and context ingestion, when there are real tools sitting there that it ignores in preference for either reading vast amounts or iffy python one-shot scripts to parse stuff.

user43928•6m ago
Using a CLI coding agent in your IDE's terminal is a terrible way to view conversation history and works poorly for organizing multiple conversations.

It only fits a hands-on, merely AI-assisted development approach, on one feature at a time, that is not typically productive compared to agentic development.

You might disagree, but you'll find that the proponents of the hands-on approach are losing ground every month as AI gets better at working autonomously.

bsoqk•5m ago
>Are you paid to press enter at anything that Claude present to you?

I'm paid to create a product. If Claude does so without me having to look at the code, then that's what I'm being paid to do.