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Everything is going wrong for Muhammad bin Salman

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2026/10/19/everything-is-going-wrong-for-muhammad-bin-salman
23•u1hcw9nx•2h ago

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MisterMunchkin•1h ago
This is the problem with having a king, all it takes is one moron and you destroy your country.

Anyone could have told you his genius ideas like “turn a city into a thin line across desert/mountains” were the stupidest thing anyone had ever said. But you can’t tell him because he’s the king and he’ll kill you.

pelagicAustral•1h ago
the king has no clothes and stuff, yeah...
kleiba2•1h ago
> This is the problem with having a king, all it takes is one moron and you destroy your country.

Can happen in democracies just as much.

sigmarule•1h ago
Less so functional ones.
QuantumNomad_•1h ago
It’s functional until it isn’t.
mjd•23m ago
Yes, but a democracy isn't stuck with the moron until he dies.
d3vnull•20m ago
Not "just as much".

The more functional the democracy, the less "just as much".

chris_wot•1h ago
A king? My man, you can just get a President who does the same thing.
lukan•50m ago
But he would have been allmost king by now, if his wars would have succeeded. And obviously his wars did not succeeded because he did not get the support a king deserves!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Trump_-_...

ponector•1h ago
Trump is not a king and is destroying the country. Charles is a king and is doing a great job.
padjo•56m ago
Yeah king is the wrong word really. Having an unaccountable autocrat is really the problem.
cjs_ac•1h ago
I worked on this project for a little under a year and it was fractally stupid. The top-level concepts are stupid, but so are the details. The whole thing has a cyberpunk aesthetic because that’s what MBS likes. The ski resort has a dam that’s made out of failure modes because that was the only way to combine that aesthetic with the requirement that the lake be able to host international rowing events. One day we had to work out how to freeze the lake over because MBS liked a render someone made of people ice skating on the lake. And so on.
csvm•14m ago
The stupidity of the whole project is fascinating. Do you have any other wild examples?
fakedang•1h ago
Perhaps he was trying to get line of sight into the desert by building the line...

Fun fact, MBS is a big fan of Age of Empires 2 and plays it in the mornings. Also funny story, I once saw a match being played, around US night time, where one player built a line of houses into the enemy territory so that the opponent was forced to micro their soldiers manually. Think of that what you may.

lifestyleguru•58m ago
> stupidest thing anyone had ever said. But you can’t tell him because he’s the king and he’ll kill you.

"Let's exit one of the largest and most powerful economic and diplomatic unions"

"Let's give away control over our country to real estate agents"

There have been strong stupidest vibes all over in the recent years.

gaiagraphia•53m ago
Insane how the plans dove straight into being so grand and expensive.

The location itself is kinda decent for development. It could've been pretty feasible if the plan was to pump desalled water up the mountains and let it flow down like rivers through smaller developments, while pumping out water laterally for irrigation.

Could've slowly greened their side of the Red Sea, hooked themselves up with a bridge to Sharm (and onwards to Cairo I believe with Egypt's HSR plans), built a few marinas, resorts, and stuff, and become quite a popular destination for a fraction of the cost.

Didn't they have a whole plan for processing the brine into concrete for development, too?

bigcat12345678•51m ago
Yep, same for a president, who we all know started a 10× worse version of Yemen war.

Someone called Putin started 100× worse war and enjoyed the close to unanimous support domestically.

Someone committed genocide in Palestine who cannot not be voted down.

I think I really don't see any better political systems.

grebc•40m ago
It takes work by the citizenry to keep the political class in check, regardless of the configuration. Kings don’t rule in isolation, nor do elected governments. In a lot of countries we’ve abdicated that responsibility, likewise the political class has abdicated its responsibility to its citizens.

Read any government document from almost any department and the language for citizen has become customer. Language matters, I’m not a customer, but no one cares.

trukester•1h ago
The greatest achievement of renewable energy will not be averting climate disaster, as people are going to screw up the planet regardless, but rather making retarded arab countries irrelevant
gvfsa•27m ago
Personally I feel exactly the same - these peoples simply do not have, on average, the intelligence required to deal with such amounts of wealth and power.
kaishin•21m ago
Humans in general don't have such an intelligence. Look no further than the US.
dumberquestions•26m ago
They would still have trillions invested across EU and US, if their relevance bothers you then you should direct your anger at the leaders and voters who made them as relevant.
mono442•11m ago
These investments can be easily taxed or regulated so they don't generate any real profit once the oil countries are irrelevant.
nacozarina•1h ago
“All that money and no idea what to do with it.”
franczesko•1h ago
He get the Darwin award for restarting the current conflict in Yemen
trilogic•53m ago
I consider Paywalled an ad, flagged.
thendrill•47m ago
You guys ever heard of ideological subversion ....

Coz this is the result of ideological subversion on the saudis and the other GCC countries since 1933...

This whole thing culminated when MBS suddenly packed his family in that hotel about 15 years ago...

You guys have to understand that the people that put people like Trump in power are also the same ones that pull the strings in the middle east...

Stop looking at things in vacuum...

Here is a short history lesson for the interested : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Lvv1f5Qu4

eldgfipo•23m ago
Little thug who took power through brute force then thought he could bully the world like he bullied people all around him his whole life. Too bad the spot is already taken by the Don.

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