The ratchet of authoritarianism has been turning steadily in the US (and the rest of the world) for at least the past 25 years, and a big part of why no coherent opposition to it managed to manifest is how it was turned into a partisan issue. Republicans and the apathetic centre tune out Democratic complaints about the authoritarianism of a Republican administration just as it happened when the party associations were reversed some 5 years ago, because a group resenting its outgroup wielding power is the most unsurprising dog-bites-man event.
At the same time, neither side is willing to criticise authoritarianism by their own, both because they do not want to "stab their soldiers in the back" in the culture war and because in practical terms more power to wield against the outgroup is too useful to forego. Would you still be happy to support a durable circumscription of the current US admin's ability to regulate local AI, if it also meant that no future Democratic administration could interfere with a cataclysmic AI-driven campaign of right-wing misinformation and propaganda that is threatening everything you hold dear?
And then the other side uses it as justification to escalate further.
agreed, and it's a bit disappointing to frame the very real current problem with dependency on us tech with the framework of 'you won't get all the ai magic'
we have an example of the icc judge who has basically been removed from modern society because of ridiculous sanctions, and there was the threat to the UK for sanctions over the mere suggestion that they would be investigating musk and twitter for the actual csam content and deep fake content being produced
any place and anyone that depends on us tech companies or us payment processors are a single social media post from deranged american politicians away from being removed from modern society -- this is a real and present danger, and it's a bit pathetic to frame it as 'you won't get to enjoy the wonders of ai if you get banned'
With local models, you can’t be banned.
While employed, you’re using corporate accounts and can’t be banned.
They only ever get cancelled over money
Google/openai/etc detect that you are using your corporate account from the same home where you use your banned account, corporate account get banned for trying to circumvent the ban.
Can you be sure this will never happen ?
Technology enables central control. That has been obvious for decades now. AI makes it a bit worse.
> you’ll be forced to love your wife for who she is and not her AI generated fake persona!
Seriously…?
Apparently this is some dystopia with or without the AI companies banning you from their services, yet somehow the big scary thing is not having open weight models.
The entire tech world needs to get a grip on reality, like the fact that this random Twitter fanfic gained any traction at all on this site is a massive indictment of the quality of discourse here.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mis...
The entire business of labeling Americans as antisemites and Nazis is hilarious considering it was exactly the Americans who defeated them.
Hitler is a European and Jewish phenomenon and history that has almost nothing to do with Americans. Again we’re the guys who defeated them.
So any company acting this paranoid in our country is only shooting themselves in the foot.
Nobody likes this banning bullshit that companies like HN, Reddit, and Google do, and Gemini hardly has a moat. Banning is beloved by people who never had free speech (Canadians, Euros). And what are you banning? Because in fact, more workspace users that pay for Gemini don’t even use it than those who do. Gemini has no moat anyway.
Stupid people everywhere
Yet, the stock ticker kept on rising after the incident.
Open Source is economically viable???
And AI feeds on open source???
Am I missing the sarcasm or something? Or perhaps that an AI bot created this post.
There's no need for banning to make people economically useless, it's the end goal for AI.
Would you be interested to join?
Are you?
You personally were one of the guys that defeated the nazis?
How about the current leader of America, was he one of the guys that defeated them?
You shouldn't even coast on your own success, but you definitely can't coast on the success of people completely different from you, much less do so nearly a century later.
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