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Jailbreaking my car's navigation system just so I can change the time

https://blog.nns.ee/2026/11/02/renault-hack/
95•xx_ns•1d ago

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gregsadetsky•50m ago
I was just wondering the same thing for a 2013 Honda Civic - has the screen's (the "head unit"?) firmware been fully dumped and reverse engineered?

How realistic would it be to run fully custom firmware there, and even communicate over usb - for example, if I had a pi running in the car, and it used the usb connection to show things on the built-in display?

rockostrich•30m ago
It's probably easier to just buy an aftermarket head unit. The only thing you'll need to confirm is that it supports features you care about e.g. steering wheel controls.
rithdmc•26m ago
Probably more difficult than hijacking the display with the pi. But that's just a vibe.
EvanAnderson•4m ago
I'd love to pwn the head unit in my 2014 Honda CR-V just so I can stop it from sending a "Play" command every time a phone associates with the Bluetooth and the audio system was left "on".
whycome•44m ago
Pretty awesome write up to explain their journey in it all.

I suspect a bunch of car head units will face new problems in the spring when many Canadian provinces will no longer change their clocks. The units won't get updated DST rules.

monegator•10m ago
which is mind boggling.

my skoda simply has an entry in the menu: DST? which puts the clock one hour ahead or behind.

This posts remind me that when i will be in the market for a new van i will have to decide to get the trafic or the vivaro, solely on the head unit they use (renault ones have had incredibly stupid design decisions for years, on ergonomics alone, even more in firmware)

iclelland•9m ago
That's this fall - happened a couple of days ago.
runnr_az•26m ago
As an Arizona resident, by recent Honda CRV's clock is off by an hour for half the year. Since usually the carplay display overrides the clock, it's no big deal, but it cracks me up that, despite being a professional programmer, I have yet to figure out how to set it correctly
jerf•17m ago
The difficulty of setting a VCR's clock was a meme in the 1990s, and I can attest, justifiably so.

But at least it was possible. The clock setting being impossible without a proprietary and easily lost or destroyed SD card is pretty good, but we can do better. It could be just impossible to fix a wrong clock. Truly that would be the apotheosis of user unfriendly design.

220hertz•3m ago
I'm reminded of an old commercial depicting kids taunting another kid by asking "What time is it at Billy's house? 12 O'Clock! 12 O'Clock! 12 O'Clock!" Might have been a Blockbuster commercial? I can't remember.
bookofjoe•12m ago
In 1974 when I was an medical intern at Los Angeles County-University of Southern California Hospital, ALL the round analog wall clocks with hands in all 26 operating rooms were correct six months a year: there was NO provision for automatically advancing/moving them back when DST started/ended, nor did anyone do it manually.
EvanAnderson•6m ago
It's crazy they didn't have a centralized clock system in a facility like that. What a thing to scrimp on.
tom1337890•22m ago
Awesome write up. Love it. And good thing you documented it, since in half a year you'll need it again.

My takeaway: You should have just gotten the SD card and trusted the previous owner. Sometimes "simple users" do know. ^^

darknavi•14m ago
> And good thing you documented it, since in half a year you'll need it again.

Man this is too real for personal projects. I really need to write down my findings and thoughts more for future me.

bgun•12m ago
I’m a little confused by the description of that interaction - why wouldn’t you take the SD card? Did they want to charge extra for it? Seems like even a 10 year old map (plus apparently other functionality) is something you’d want.

In any case, glad it took you on the wild goose chase that led to the write up!

mikestew•11m ago
That’s the part I don’t get: just take the damned card, you never know. Worst case: hey, free SD card!
xx_ns•3m ago
Yep. I didn't get into it in the article, but in reality the previous owner had already (accidentally) thrown the SD card in the trash, and was pretty much asking me if they want me for them to go digging through their trash to find it, and I told them not to worry about it.
jerlam•13m ago
I had a luxury car from 2001 where the time could not be manually changed, only set to specific time zones. Of course, all the time zone rules had long diverged from its rule set, and it had to be changed four times a year to show the correct time.

This car also inexplicably forced you to manually choose a country, and then a time zone, despite having a GPS that already knew exactly where you were and already had chosen a previous time zone.

Carplay is nice but I would have settled for a non-luxury "clock set" button.

ForHackernews•10m ago
> The system had DRM checks which rejected SD cards without the correct CID (a unique ID burned into the card) and files with signatures based on that specific CID, so I couldn't even copy the files to a blank SD card.

FWIW, there are grey market sites that will sell you an SD burned with a custom CID so you can clone an SD card with this kind of copy protection. It sounds like in this case maybe he could've gotten away with an empty maps card + menu definitions file.

Jailbreaking my car's navigation system just so I can change the time

https://blog.nns.ee/2026/11/02/renault-hack/
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