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Silicon Valley's Bad Night

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/11/americans-really-dont-like-data-centers-elections/689284/
29•ent101•1h ago

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stbenjam•46m ago
I'm convinced the anti data center movement is foreign propaganda
marcus_holmes•42m ago
I know actual people who are deeply opposed to AI (well, the current AI tech anyway), for what seem to them to be good moral reasons.

I find the attitude a bit weird and very left-wing purity-spiral stuff, but it is a real attitude that real people have.

someothherguyy•32m ago
what is the purity spiral and why is it left wing?

it seems like a group of issues that the general public might be concerned about

gruez•29m ago
>what is the purity spiral and why is it left wing?

People trying to 1-up each other leading to the beliefs of a group being more polarized[1]. The naming doesn't imply it's a partisan phenomenon, any more than "right wing politician" implies politicians are a right wing phenomenon

[1] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage...

someothherguyy•27m ago
i know what a purity spiral is. i was asking what this one is about and why the comment implied it is partisan
gruez•15m ago
The datacenter opposition is definitely partisan, even if you can find some overlap in supporters

https://www.economist.com/content-assets/images/20260905_USC...

SubiculumCode•29m ago
It's both. It's not either or. It's absolutely both.

There are good reasons for people to be pissed off about data centers in the U.S.

China is absolutely funneling money to push anti-datacenter sentiment, and many of the people involved/receiving that money are not aware of where that money came from.

We are at the crux of a national security spiral in AI development that is naturally unpopular at home.

EA-3167•7m ago
You know it's entirely possible for China to be pushing this while dropping their own fortune into research, and for everyone to lose their investments.

Don't get me wrong, it's no that the tech is useless, especially for militaries and surveillance states, but it's not the economic miracle or 'new industrial revolution' so many have gotten away with promoting. I think many here will be shocked at just how quickly a fad can die when the money implodes.

ares623•34m ago
it is woke mind virus propagated via 5g towers and vaccines
mulderc•33m ago
My neighbors take issue with people getting the wrong roof on their house. Not surprised people being against a data center nearby.
Dig1t•32m ago
My electricity bill is 50% higher than this same month 1 year ago. My friends and neighbors in my city have said that they also have greatly increased electricity bills. Whether or not that increase is due to a specific data center, it's extremely easy to blame it on the increased electricity usage of data centers, no foreign propaganda required.
toast0•8m ago
My electricity cost per kWh has just about doubled over the last 3 years, but afaik, it's mostly related to legislated changes to the energy mix and increases in fuel costs.

Fuel costs are up for lots of reasons, more demand for electricity could certainly be one of them... Inflation is certainly another component.

10111001•29m ago
> I'm convinced the anti data center movement is foreign propaganda

Exactly! No rational person could oppose supergeniuses like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Marc Andreessen, etc., so if people do, the logical conclusion is that they've been manipulated by a psyop.

Science is my superpower!

etchalon•25m ago
I have no doubt there's foreign bot armies amplifying these things, but foreign bot armies understand they're most effective when the amplify real sentiments.

And the anti-data center stuff is a very, very real sentiment.

AngryData•10m ago
I don't see why I shouldn't be against them. It doesn't benefit me in any way, it just increases my electricity costs. Nor am I sure there is even a market for the majority of proposed data center builds, if this exponential growth/need for computing power doesn't hold we will be flushing money down the toilet, and largely on the public's dime since most of it is funded by loans and debt. Even if LLMs achieve all that is promised and more, that just means more people out of work sooner and the already powerful and wealthy gain more power and wealth than anybody else.
happytoexplain•3m ago
Why...? Or is this just a sarcastic way of saying you disagree with the movement?
hedora•33m ago
I’m pro-AI. I use it all the time. I max out my $200 claude subscription and own a strix halo.

The data center buildout makes no sense.

I don’t want to work for a Trump lapdog, so MAGA++ recruiters can go pound sand.

I don’t think SV leadership realizes how f—-ked they are.

EA-3167•9m ago
I suspect they just got a wake-up call. In one night they lost a friendly congress by a LARGE margin, many local elections including Texas AG and Gov just walked out of their lives. Voters all over the country made their feelings on this issue clear enough that it would be difficult to pin this response on a party rather than the people as a whole.

All of this was preceded by the first economic shocks of the bubble bursting, and now it's truly underway. By this time next week it's entirely possible there will be fewer SV "Leaders" in a position to do more than wonder when exactly it all went so wrong.

Hint: It was the beginning.

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