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Payments Canada announces launch of Canada's Real-Time Rail (RTR) payment system

https://www.payments.ca/canada-launches-real-time-rail-bringing-247-payment-infrastructure-national-economy
17•ocd•35m ago

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ChrisArchitect•23m ago
Official release: https://www.payments.ca/canada-launches-real-time-rail-bring...
ocd•11m ago
Updated.
tamimio•14m ago
The article didn’t mention how is this different from current interac, and great to see wealthsimple is already in it!
toomuchtodo•8m ago
Canada's Interac is anagolous to US' Zelle payment network (which is owned by the largest US commercial banks), while RTR is the US FedNow equivalent ("true" instant payment and settlement with broader use case support, operated as a utility by the US Federal Reserve).

https://www.redcompasslabs.com/insights/why-canada-needs-ano... was something I found via a search that explains some of the nuance without writing a new post on the topic, other citations and resources are welcome.

(it should be expected that newer, utility ran instant payment systems cannibalize existing, more expensive, lower legacy payment rails; going fast and being cheap as a utility is the innovation)

smnrchrds•1m ago
Has FedNow had any visible effect in the US? Are transfers now happening instantaneously?
julianlam•9m ago
Interac (eTransfer/EMT) is a great system that has already rolled out nation-wide.

Unfortunately its utility is curtailed severely if your bank doesn't trust your mobile OS (LineageOS, for me). For security purposes, my bank (RBC) triggers identity checks every time I try to send an EMT, and even after sending selfies, drivers licences, etc. — it still rejects the transfer.

So, security at the cost of all utility.

I have now resorted to transferring money between my accounts using paper cheques... like it's the 90s. If somehow they deny me cheque deposits I'll have to use an ATM and walk the money to the other bank. Given how there are now banks that don't even have branches, this could be a major problem in the future.

This Real-Time Rail system sounds promising, but that's not the link that'll kill it for everyone.

dcrazy•3m ago
The utility is preventing malware bundled with pirated apps from transferring away your personal savings in a hard-to-reverse instant transfer.

You, as a technically savvy user, could choose to use a dedicated device with an acceptable security posture for your electronic transfers.

petcat•5m ago
Will be curious to see if this ends up requiring Google/Apple accounts and mobile device attestation in order to work.

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Payments Canada announces launch of Canada's Real-Time Rail (RTR) payment system

https://www.payments.ca/canada-launches-real-time-rail-bringing-247-payment-infrastructure-nation...
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