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Show HN: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

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Show HN: The same nine streaming subscriptions cost $702/year more than in 2021

https://honestlyranked.com/guides/streaming-price-increases/
67•honestlyranked•1h ago

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honestlyranked•1h ago
I got annoyed that "the price" of a subscription is really two prices — the one advertised and the one you end up paying — and that nobody keeps the receipts. So I built a tracker that checks 27 providers' public pricing pages daily, and separately curated dated, sourced price histories for streaming services going back to 2010.

The streaming number surprised me. Nine services, flagship tiers:

March 2021: $95.91/month. Today: $154.41/month. That's +61%, or $702 more per year for the same nine subscriptions.

Per service since 2021-03: Apple TV+ +200%, Disney+ +138%, Peacock +100%, Hulu +58%, Netflix +43%, Paramount+ +40%, YouTube Premium +33%, Spotify +30%, HBO Max +23%. 75 documented increases across 11 services, every one linked to the announcement or report that covered it. The most recent was Apple TV+, $12.99 to $14.99 on 28 August.

Two services are tracked but deliberately left out of that basket: YouTube TV (a live-TV bundle, $35 to $82.99 since 2017 — the steepest riser I have, but it is a cable replacement, not an on-demand subscription) and Prime Video (an add-on to a Prime membership, not standalone). Putting either in would have made the headline bigger and the comparison worse.

One methodology note, because I got this wrong first: my initial version summed each service's launch price, which gave a bigger, better headline. But those launches span 2010 to 2021, so that basket never existed — nobody could have bought it. Recomputing from March 2021, the first month all nine existed, gives the smaller +61% figure. I'd rather publish the smaller true one.

Same thing happened with the ad tiers. I expected to find ad-free plans being hiked faster to push people toward advertising. Disney+ fits — ad-free +73% vs ad-supported +50% over the same window. Netflix doesn't: it raised both by exactly 29%. What did happen at both is the cash gap widened — Netflix $8.50 to $11.00/month, Disney+ $3 to $7/month.

The daily side covers hosting, VPN, antivirus and SaaS: 42 of 75 tracked plans renew above their advertised price, averaging +196%. The extreme is IONOS at +1,300% ($1/mo advertised, $14/mo at renewal). 9 providers never raise renewal prices at all — two of them, Mullvad and Windscribe, run no affiliate programme, so nobody has a commercial reason to mention them.

Data is CC BY 4.0: https://honestlyranked.com/data/renewal-prices.csv

Method: https://honestlyranked.com/methodology/

Limits, stated up front: I measure published pricing only — I don't test the products and make no claim about quality. Prices are read from one fixed location (Pakistan), which is stated on the site; for most of these the price is global, but where a provider geo-prices, my figure describes that vantage point. Streaming histories are curated from primary sources rather than scraped, which is how they go back further than my own tracking.

Happy to talk about the scraping side — Cloudflare, JS-rendered prices, A/B-tested prices, and providers who publish no renewal figure at all.

ivanjermakov•47m ago
$702 more is relative and tells nothing without the basis. It's 61% increase in 5 years.
iso1631•38m ago
So in real terms it's up 26%. Which of course is to be expected, people have a set amount they are willing to spend on entertainment, in the past it was cable -- in 2015 the average US cable TV subscription was about $100, that's about $140 today in real terms, or $1700 a year.

Seems that streamers have a long way to go before they extract all that money.

MYEUHD•36m ago
How did you come up with the 26% number?
pbmonster•29m ago
Total consumer-price inflation has been about 27.7% since 2021.

Inflation is multiplicative, so: 1.277 * 1.26 = 1.61 giving us the 61% subscriptions went up.

OtherShrezzing•24m ago
That’s the average household cable tv subscription, no?

I subscribe to YouTube and my partner subscribes to Prime. We have a joint cable-like tv package too, and one of us pays for Disney Plus. In the past we’d have been consolidated into one cable subscription consumption, but now we appear in the stats as lots of distinct consumptions.

I think all-in, streamers plus other subscription based entertainment services are nearer to the $140 figure per household than the individual figures describe.

mbeavitt•47m ago
Bring back DVD rentals!

In the US, you don't even need to pay a licensing fee when you buy a DVD with intent to rent it out to people (this is not the case in the UK), thanks to the "First-sale doctrine" - Bobbs-Merrill v. Straus (1908).

footy•36m ago
I don't know about in the US, but I live in a fairly small city in Canada and we have DVD rentals. I go to the video store almost every week, and it was on the papers that a second one (which will also rent out VHS!) is opening.

The Library does DVD rentals too, I check it out every couple of months.

It's even better in Toronto, Bay Street Video is an institution.

0xEF•17m ago
Eh, I miss video rental stores in the US, but I don't agree that they would solve this problem. I worked for a large chain of them as a teen, and know first-hand that people were spending just as much on rentals as they do with subscription services, especially when you add in game rentals and late fees.

More importantly, it does not solve the problem of ownership. We don't own a rented disc just as much as we don't own a DRM-controlled digital purchase that can only be accessed via the subscription portal it was purchased on.

throwaway_ab•45m ago
Hi honestlyranked you might want to reach out to the mods, your comments are dead. I think you are meant to put info in the submitted post text field, not in the comments, I could be wrong!
hypfer•43m ago
Likely dead due to obvious LLM writing. I would suspect that the (auto)moderation is working as intended there.
not-so-darkstar•38m ago
>Likely dead due to obvious LLM writing

I think it's the look of the page: dark background and bright colours with an halo.

koe123•44m ago
This is what I am always curious about with these tech valuations. They’re valued at multiple times earnings, often 30+. That implies 30 years to earn back an investment iff earnings are payed out. Yet all are immediately enshittifying or price gauging when they hit monopoly / have market share. Is the bet then that thats just gonna be the status quo? I guess historically it was a good bet.
acd•43m ago
What is the alternative to subscribing to streaming services? Can you purchase your movies online and be guaranteed to have access to the movies in the future?
swingboy•43m ago
Piracy is one.
whstl•41m ago
If you want guaranteed future access, then this is probably the only online option that actually fulfills this guarantee... other than that, physical media.
anonym29•30m ago
Often the same people behind both!

Fun fact: pirates are more likely than the average person to purchase media.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170916165525/https://www.ofcom...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/16233815292/anoth...

0xEF•29m ago
I regularly snag DVDs for $1 USD or less at garage/yard/boot sales. I see tons of cheap used physical media in record shops when I travel, too. eBay and Facebook Marketplace are also great sources for used DVD.

I promote this because not only does it restore some mastery* over your media, it keeps these discs out of landfills and oceans, where they will linger in a shredded state.

*we are, of course, still subject to any anti-piracy measures and non-removeable advertisements on the disc, which admittedly seems quaint by today's DRM standards, but I ccannot rightly say "complete" mastery over your media, here.

tjpnz•35m ago
I'm mostly down to one. It's called Daddyflix (Jellyfin, actually) and runs on a Mac Mini in my home office. Costs close to zero, is accessible everywhere and there's no ads or other bullshit.
boxed•30m ago
Money comparisons that aren't inflation adjusted aren't "honest". They are in fact DIShonest.
immibis2•20m ago
How do you even measure inflation accurately, given the current government, and has there been 61% inflation over the last 5 years?
OroPla•28m ago
I am still happy with my decision to never get entertainment subscription services. I buy CDs (that I rip) and BDs (that I let someone else rip, since that's a science in itself). This guarantees me access forever and I get to sell down the line, if I feel like it.

It is way cheaper long term.

sdcfgy•24m ago
Yeah that. I am mostly running on FLAC rips I did myself.
posh_somme•19m ago
Streaming services do not offer you what you like forever, they offer you what you didn't know about for the amount of time you need to watch it. So these are two different things
bigblind•13m ago
Same here, that's the main value I get from especially music streaming services: I hear about anartist, and can immediately go check otu their discography.
heaney-555•13m ago
>It is way cheaper long term.

How few songs do you listen to, and movies/shows do you watch, for this to possibly be true?

pixel_popping•6m ago
It's not way cheaper long-term at all, I mean unless you really watch/listen to a tiny amount of content, you can rip the same way with Netflix, Hulu and so-on as well so I don't see how that makes it more durable?

What you are doing is practically the same equivalent as downloading torrents, how do you have "more guarantees" than just downloading?

TazeTSchnitzel•27m ago
You could be presenting the most carefully-researched information in the world, but with such an obviously vibecoded site I'm not going to attempt to read it.
polarbearballs•16m ago
You could be presenting the most carefully-researched text in the world, but with such obviously machine made paper I'm not going to attempt to read it.
matja•8m ago
You're rejecting information solely based on the aesthetic quality of the delivery medium?
nottorp•26m ago
Ok a price increase but:

"nine streaming subscriptions".

No one sane will do nine streaming subscriptions. The market is insane in itself for assuming that.

bnastic•14m ago
Apple Music, Netflix, Disney+, BBC.

That's four. I don't want any of them.

Three I have to take due to kids' nagging, the fourth I have to take due to state apparatus' nagging and legal threats.

jaffa2•5m ago
Tell your kids ‘no’

Bring some sanity back to the world.

vjvjvjvjghv•14m ago
[delayed]
FinnLobsien•13m ago
I don’t think the point is that this is the assumption of people’s real subscription behavior, more to show that it’s getting more expensive overall.
sdcfgy•25m ago
This is why I steal all my shit.
LightBug1•20m ago
... which is why I opted out of all of that bullshit from the start.

Pay some portion of that over the years and end up owning ... absolutely nothing.

ahmedfromtunis•20m ago
Any price comparison over time should include inflation.

Otherwise this is akin to comparing speed of 2 objects in a relativistic setting without stating the frame of reference.

Side note: I don't know why, but the existence of a "cite this" section on this page made me sad.

crumby•18m ago
Yup
stego-tech•13m ago
Context matters, because absent it folks will look at these increases and shrug it off as inflation (or let companies shrug it off with that excuse).

To truly contextualize it, we need to understand the total value (library sizes, removed/lost media, household/account sharing costs) relative to its price, and relative to background inflation. We need to understand relative to costs (labor, infrastructure, royalties), to profits, and how industry consolidation has or has not affected these data points.

From my own understanding of the wider context, there’s a significant attribution of costs to naked greed and profit extraction rather than overall value. With job displacement due to AI (despite union contracts), the tearing down of series or films due to CEO preference (looking at you, Zaslav), the overlap of libraries (Hulu and Disney are increasingly the same thing; Hulu/Disney/Peacock are the same thing as Hulu alone was just seven years ago), the punitive measures against account sharing, and with the forcing of advertisements onto previously ad-free platforms or pricing tiers, the overall cost relative to societal value has decreased while value to executives and shareholders has increased, and that’s the real takeaway.

ericpauley•9m ago
AI;dr
crims0n•5m ago
Important context here is that many of these streaming services operated at a loss for years, and some still are. HBO Max didn’t turn a profit until 2023 and Disney only become profitable in 2024 after bundling with Hulu. AFAIK Paramount+ and Peacock are still in the red.

Point being, the introductory prices for these services were always unsustainable.

delegate•4m ago
BitTorrent: 0% increase. Just saying.
walrus01•4m ago
Content of the site entirely aside, from an aesthetic point of view, I am getting pretty tired of this obviously LLM generated static site content template design in 2025/2026.
dantillberg
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20m ago
Or another way of reading it: a 61% increase over 5 years indicates a 10% annual pace of inflation for this particular basket of goods.
iso1631•25m ago
I watch films on streaming rather than old dvds with unskippable nonsense like "don't pirate this dvd" (well obviously I didn't, that's why I have the dvd), or the pain of the menu systems to just press play.
immibis2•21m ago
Physical media isn't guaranteed to retain future access. There are protocols for players to update various bits of data from the newest disk you have ever inserted into them. The Nintendo Wii certainly does this, I'm not sure if BluRay does but I don't see why they wouldn't.
thfuran•42m ago
You can still buy physical media online, though an increasing portion of movies and shows are produced by the streaming companies, and you don’t really have an alternative there.
bossyTeacher•37m ago
No. The whole issue is that the seller needs to maintain an online service to allow you access to the movies. This online service costs money so over time is likely not worth the cost. This plus the online service provider undergoing changes (bankruptcy, acquisition, mergers, etc) or they themselves losing rights to the movies. Seems to me that rental or purchases are still unbeatable. The alternative is streaming but the downside is higher costs over time and worse quality movies.
itake•23m ago
1/ watch in theatres

2/ consume free streaming (tt, ig, YouTube, etc)

Just don’t watch movies at home.

wccrawford•20m ago
No. Sony has recently removed 551 movies that people "bought". Sony's distribution license ran out with a studio and they didn't renew it.

They seem to have gotten away with it so far, so there's no legal protection for "buying" digital at the moment.

Amorymeltzer•18m ago
Libraries! They often have digital access to various services—e.g. Kanopy—but also often have lots of physical media sources! It involves a little more planning and a little less algorithm, and there are shows and movies that won't ever be available—e.g. things from Netflix, Apple—but there's enough out there already.