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Ask HN: Can I tell my managers to skip the corporate bs and get to the point?

8•nhgiang•7h ago
What is the worst that could happen?

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wryoak•7h ago
Guaranteed closed pathway to promotion. Worst case scenario is probably quiet firing
orionblastar•6h ago
The corporate BS is propaganda to control you. You should read the Dilbert comic strip sometime.
themanualstates•6h ago
You look like an animal that couldn’t do the courtship ritual for communication. Not even language, but like squeels or tails or smells.

You’ve got to read the room!

nhgiang•2h ago
Perhaps the room need to be wiped clean
themanualstates•2h ago
Then address it sometime appropriate
BLKNSLVR•6h ago
I recently had a meeting where I called out some effects of on-going messaging for which actions / results have not matched the messaging for long enough that the messaging just seems transparently BS now. ie. the trust is evaporating, and employee satisfaction is starting to reflect this.

I'm very picky with the words I choose to say things like this (like multiple 5-second pauses at times) in order to demonstrate that I understand both sides of the reasoning, but also to get the point across. Not wanting to talk up my ability to do this, but you have to know where literally everyone else 'in the room' exists in relation to your point, especially the leadership representative.

If there's an ambitious and morally flexible colleague in attendance, they will smell blood in the water and rip you to shreds to 'defend' the company/management to the benefit of their own career. If your leadership representative is a fucking snowflake, they may react like an injured mother lion protecting her cubs. If both of those are true, then start clearing out your desk as soon as possible.

The only scenario is if everything is just right. You need the entire room to be almost visibly nodding at what you're saying.

al_borland•6h ago
No one can really answer that without actually knowing the situation, people, culture, etc. There aren’t enough words to try and capture all the variables at play.

If they are feeding you corporate BS, then pushing back on it will probably hurt you.

If you get to know them better, it may soften, or it may not.

It also depends on the context of the communication. I’ve had managers who were very open with me and would tell me everything with no filter… but when certain messages came down from HR, they’d have to put their game face on and read them verbatim for legal reasons, which was a lot of corporate BS.

drsalt•4h ago
what you're asking is so generic and vague. it's impossible to answer. but in general you should try to make your manager happy not sad.
le_curious•4h ago
Quit and start your own company instead. Or join someone who has.

I don't know your whole story.

But when you hit that point, at a certain limit, the only option that remains is to start your own company and leave all the drama behind.

Good luck!

iExploder•3h ago
You'll be put in a box with the rest of the worker bees, useful for the time being, but not sophisticated enough and able of displaying higher behaviours and definitely not worthy elevating into the inner circle.
nhgiang•2h ago
Ooh higher behaviours, so scary
d--b•1h ago
You can tell your manager anything as long as you prepare the landing. "There is something that is bothering me, yada yada, I've been thinking about it for a while, yada yada, I don't know if this concern will be well received, yada yada, I find our meetings to be inefficient". And slooooooooowly you get to say things like "for lack of a better word: corporate bs".

The worst that could happen is you get fired of course, did you expect anything more serious could happen?

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