The problem with tabs is that they render as different widths in different contexts. For example, Visual Studio shows them as 5 spaces, but Github shows them as 8.

Puts me firmly in the spaces camp now.

    some_func(
        verylongarg0,
        verylongarg1
    );

I'm firmly in Team Tab, and I want to arrest any misconception that us Tabbers would do anything as nonsensical as using our precious variable-width tab-stop chars for anything like column-aligning identifiers: we don't.

My very hard and fast rule is that tabs are for only indenting at the block level, while spaces are used for alignment after the initial tab chars; tabs must never be used on a line if preceded by any non-tab char.

Whereas I can't stand always-using-only-spaces-for-indenting-and-alignment - especially because when you're drag-selecting text most editors won't snap your selection to the indent level, so you get RSI in your wrist from having to make micro-movements to make sure you don't select more - or less - spaces than the intended indent. ...or worse: when moving the caret via the keyboard and having to tap your arrow-keys 4 or 8 times per indent instead of just once.

You spaces-only people are totally spaced out, man.

  some_func(
      eyesore,
      blah
  )

Many years ago, I used tabs, and set them to two-space indent. The former because the entire point is that tabs carry different semantic information - this is a level of indentation, not just making things align vertically - and allow each developer to set the indentation width to their preference. (The other comment from DaiPlusPlus explains the proper use of tabs, just as I did it.)

The latter because that makes them more square. Aesthetics matter.

I switched mostly out of peer pressure. But one argument I did find convincing is that setting some specific limit on line length - whether it's 72 or 78 or 80 or 100 or anything else - makes sense, and letting people change the amount of indentation defeats that purpose. That is: the guy who likes 8-space indents can't actually have them, because it produces a horizontal scroll for code that "conformed to the style guidelines" when written by the 2-space guy.

But now I alias names, break up complex subexpressions etc. to avoid questions of how to split code across multiple lines - and most lines in my code are nowhere near any such length limit. And I write short functions, so there aren't enough levels of indentation to matter.

And I use 4-space indents, because standards have value after all.

Maybe Yelp's codebase was otherwise clean, but aside from golang projects (and the Linux kernel) I've come to associate tabs with unreadable slop code. Maybe your experience is different.

The only reason I don't use them is because nothing supports/expects/shows them. The alternate history where we properly use them is a world where CSV isn't needed and we're better off for it.

You don't think I looked for it for the first 7-8 years of using Git at least a few times and came up empty? Seems a little uncharitable. Hacker News is a place to learn about stuff, not be chided for missing a point note in a release.

Come on man, you've been using HN for almost as long as I have. Be curious, treat people's comments with charity, continue the life-long learning tradition.

Obligatory XKCD lucky 10,000 link: https://xkcd.com/1053/

I originally wrote it because I wanted to do a mass-refactoring to llvm-project to change its weird naming convention and "it will mess up git blame" was an objection that was raised. Getting ignore-revs landed took many iterations over several months (thanks Barret!) and at the end of it I felt so drained that I didn't have the energy to do the mass refactoring I originally planned. Oh well. Maybe someday.

Ah, yes. The 1984 approach to coding

Also: dotnet format is kind of slow, which is why they aren't used where I work.