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Show HN: Windows 7 GUI for the Web

https://khang-nd.github.io/7.css/
110•khangnd•2h ago

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nosioptar•2h ago
This is awesome. I love that the readme contains pictures of everything.
gchamonlive•2h ago
These visual elements have to be protected by intellectual property somehow. Has Microsoft ever legally persecuted these types of projects before? Or projects built upon such libraries?

I'd be wary to build on top of these clones only to receive a cease and desist, but that's a fear of mine, I don't know if it's founded.

poly2it•2h ago
It can be more difficult to claim copyright over shapes and patterns than you think.
flykespice•19m ago
And somehow Tetris Company succeeded it..
xyst•2h ago
I have a gallery of cease and desist orders. I would love to add MSFT to the list.
xyst•2h ago
Ah yes the days of "aero ui". Sad to hear Apple designers are taking cues from _old_ windows designs now.
joshuaissac•1h ago
I wonder if this can be integrated with Electron and Tauri to provide native-looking user interfaces.

Combined with a theme-to-CSS convertor, imagine an Electron app looking like a Windows app on Windows, and a GTK app on Linux, while following the colours and styles of the custom theme the user has selected in their OS.

90s_dev•1h ago
The reason I started hram.dev was so I could have a native platform to port 90s.dev to. I love the idea of having native host for retro GUIs. But I am not a huge fan of html/css/js combo. It feels tacked on because it is. I came up with a relatively novel and I think truly innovative GUI methodology in 90s.dev that I did not know how to explain so I haven't truly shared with people how exciting it potentially is. Tomorrow I plan to put up a github-sponsors link with a few different projects, where for each $50 that I receive for a given project, I will work two hours on that project. This way the community can help sponsor me turning these things into realities.
skgough•1h ago
I don't think you could 100% nail the Win7 glass or Win11 mica material without having transparency effects that have access to the compositor pipeline. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get close enough!
jmchuster•1h ago
> 7.css is a CSS framework for building interface components that look like Windows 7. It is built on top of the GUI backbone of XP.css, which is an extension of 98.css.

Just an absolutely lovely line of text.

threeducks•1h ago
98.css: https://jdan.github.io/98.css/

XP.css: https://botoxparty.github.io/XP.css/

xcrunner529•1h ago
Super cool. Anyone know if a similar library exists for Aqua?
dybber•1h ago
The checkboxes doesn’t look quite right on iOS
kaltsturm•1h ago
Great work and idea! How can I use it without having tailwindcss changing all css?
malikNF•1h ago
Every time I see something about windows7 coming up, I feel a little sad. 7 imo was the last good windows ms came up with. I remember upgrading to it was something worth bragging to your friends in school. There was so much excitement around it. After 7, something felt, broken, new features felt unnecessary, things got more user hostile, the magic, it was just gone!
wredcoll•46m ago
Older people feel exactly the same way about windows2000... or sometimes 98... or 3.1...
leonnatus•43m ago
more about xp than 2000
bestham•37m ago
For me more about 2000 than XP. 2000 still felt like a Workstation OS and it was very responsive. XP themeing was the first thing I removed once I could not continue on 2000.
therein•32m ago
Yeah, most people wouldn't say that about Win2000, but XP, definitely. XP Service Pack 2 was excellent.
BrenBarn•36m ago
I used all of those versions but I'd still agree that Win7 was the last good one. I still love the 95/98 aesthetic the most and it's what I try to replicate with my systems now, but the dropoff after Win7 is still much greater.
BrenBarn•38m ago
Yeah. I feel like the main thing was it was the last version that still had essentially user-controlled updates. By default it would auto-update, but you could have it not do that, or have it download the updates but not install them until you decided to, and you could deselect individual updates and just skip them.

I suspect this is linked to its era: it came out on the cusp of the trend of having everything autoupdate on its own initiative. (I just looked it up and Firefox 15 came out around the same time and was the first version to have "silent updates".) This in turn came as some kind of tipping point was reached where it became simpler to assume everyone was always connected to the internet (and have some kind of "emergency mode" for when they weren't) than to assume they weren't (and have some kind of "online mode" for when they were). And that also led to the proliferation of telemetry and other such things that involve using that always-on-ness to talk back to the software company.

I see this as part of a trend away from what I call "bounded transactions" and toward subscription-type models, and I think it's been one of the most corrosive developments in our society. The thing about Win7 was that once you had a computer up and running with it, it was up and running and would continue to be, and you could just kind of leave it like that. You had security issues to worry about, but you still had the option of being the one to worry about them. In the following years, everything began to shift towards the "you own nothing" model where so much of the functionality of "your" hardware and software was actually just a short-term lease with some company on the other end that could decide to rugpull you at their convenience.

pknerd•56m ago
why nobody tries KDE or GNOME?
OsrsNeedsf2P•20m ago
KDE and GNOME weren't as popular as Windows 7. Unless you mean porting Windows 7 to KDE as a theme?
bilgi42•18m ago
they also change theming too quickly sometimes. windows 7 is set, it's not going to change, ever
cosmic_cheese•38m ago
Very nice. Does anybody else find it a bit striking how gracefully this look has aged? With a little bit of tuning it could feel pretty modern.

Modern UI design could stand to take not just a few pages but the majority of the book from both the Windows 7 variant of Aero and the OS X 10.9 variant of Aqua, in my opinion. Legibility, information density, and communication of interactability and widget function have all been lost as we’ve careened towards egregiously thick padding, low contrast, and low differentiation.

flykespice•14m ago
I concur, I think the successor flat design trend has nailed on reducing the styling visual clutter and keeping the user just focused on the "substance" from the app UI whilst keeping the UI itself minimal with no distractions.
cosmic_cheese•1m ago
The problem is that minimalism and maximalism in UI design exist on a kind of horseshoe curve. Extremely maximalist UI is indeed distracting, but past a certain point of pruning so is minimalism, just in a different way. Instead of having g your eyes drawn away from the content, you’re poking and swiping to find the function you’re looking for, like someone trying to find the exit in a pitch dark room.

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