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1•greyface-•54s ago•0 comments

Yes, a Moon Base

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2025/08/moon-base-nuclear-reactor/683802/
1•JumpCrisscross•4m ago•0 comments

South Korea's military has shrunk by 20% in six years as male population drops

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/south-koreas-military-has-shrunk-20-in-six-years-male-population-drops-5287301
2•eagleislandsong•4m ago•0 comments

The zone zero secret: how ultra-low-stress exercise can change your life

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/aug/10/the-zone-zero-secret-how-ultra-low-stress-exercise-can-change-your-life
1•nickcotter•4m ago•0 comments

Climate Action Plan for Developers

https://github.com/social-impact/focus-areas/environmental-sustainability/climate-action-plan-for-developers
1•protontypes•4m ago•0 comments

Reinforcement Learning Conference 2025: Outstanding Paper Awards

https://rl-conference.cc/RLC2025Awards.html
1•smokel•4m ago•0 comments

Fixed Points with Event-Indexed Lipschitz Contractions

https://lightcapai.medium.com/fixed-points-with-event-indexed-lipschitz-contractions-298c5c9037a2
1•WASDAai•6m ago•1 comments

2012 (Rosy Retrospection)

https://brian.bearblog.dev/2012-rosy-retrospection/
1•brianalonso•11m ago•0 comments

Swimming Naked: Why Safety Nets Kill Startups

https://www.wizenheimer.dev/blog/opinionated-articulation
1•wizenheimer•12m ago•0 comments

Diagnosing Your Company's Strategy Problem

https://cutlefish.substack.com/p/tbm-271-diagnosing-your-companys
1•gpi•13m ago•0 comments

ICE Took Half Their Work Force. What Do They Do Now?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/ice-glenn-valley-foods.html
2•JumpCrisscross•14m ago•0 comments

Self-attention mechanism explained

https://jtlicardo.com/blog/self-attention-mechanism/
1•jtlicardo•18m ago•0 comments

Conversations remotely detected from cell phone vibrations, researchers report

https://www.psu.edu/news/engineering/story/conversations-remotely-detected-cell-phone-vibrations-researchers-report
2•giuliomagnifico•20m ago•0 comments

Claude is competitive with humans in (some) cyber competitions

https://red.anthropic.com/2025/cyber-competitions/
1•Techbrunch•33m ago•0 comments

Hugging Face TTS Arena V2 Results (Papla and Async.ai Ahead of ElevenLabs)

https://tts-agi-tts-arena-v2.hf.space/leaderboard
1•zinagorc•33m ago•0 comments

Revenue Automation Series: Testing an Integration with Third-Party System

https://engineeringblog.yelp.com/2025/05/revenue-automation-series-testing-an-integration-with-third-party-system.html
1•initialg•38m ago•0 comments

The Enshittification of Generative AI

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-enshittification-of-generative-ai/
6•rcy•39m ago•1 comments

AI Is Spam Technology

https://twitter.com/staysaasy/status/1954526861427437656
4•thisismytest•40m ago•0 comments

High-tech monitoring during heart surgery doesn't lower risk of complications

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-07-high-tech-heart-surgery-doesnt.html
2•PaulHoule•41m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Bolt – A super-fast, statically-typed scripting language written in C

https://github.com/Beariish/bolt
8•beariish•42m ago•2 comments

Buttercup is now open-source

https://blog.trailofbits.com/2025/08/08/buttercup-is-now-open-source/
1•wslh•42m ago•0 comments

Unveiling complexity in blue spaces and life expectancy

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935125012320
2•gnabgib•44m ago•0 comments

Copy Link to Highlight in Nightly – These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 185

https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2025/07/28/copy-link-to-highlight-in-nightly-these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-185/
1•Bogdanp•46m ago•0 comments

Assemblers in W64devkit

https://nullprogram.com/blog/2025/08/10/
1•ingve•50m ago•0 comments

We've been building Swarm agents incorrectly (starting from OpenAI's Swarm)

https://github.com/minki-j/agentic_classification
2•minkijung•53m ago•1 comments

Why Load Balancing at Scale Is Hard

https://startwithawhy.com/reverseproxy/2025/08/08/ReverseProxy-Deep-Dive-Part4.html
1•agentictime•55m ago•0 comments

Cryptoasset Realization: How Cryptocurrencies Are Frozen, Seized, and Forfeited

https://www.chainalysis.com/blog/cryptoasset-realization-explained/
1•paulpauper•58m ago•0 comments

AOL Underground

https://aolunderground.com/
1•chrisco255•58m ago•1 comments

Stephen Miran became Trump's top ideologue on tariffs

https://fortune.com/article/who-is-stephen-miran-paper-trump-tariffs/
3•TMWNN•1h ago•1 comments

Firecracker: Start a VM in less than a second (2021)

https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/01/23/firecracker--start-a-vm-in-less-than-a-second/
1•thunderbong•1h ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

AOL closes its dial up internet service

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2025/08/after-34-years-aol-finally-closes-its-dial-up-internet-service.html
136•simonjgreen•2h ago

Comments

edm0nd•2h ago
{s goodbye
ashleyn•2h ago
What's going on everyone? +++ATH0
matja•1h ago
ATS12=255!
brewtide•1h ago
I thought it was ATS2=255?

Either way, the memories!

andrepd•34m ago
What does this one mean? :p
matja•19m ago
It stops +++ATH0 in a IP packet (such as in a ping request, web page, etc) hanging up the modem by requiring a delay between the escape sequence (+++) and the ATH0 command.
pimlottc•5m ago
Basically, it makes it so you don't get disconnected if someone tricks you into typing "+++ATH0"
esafak•1h ago
a/s/l?
Loughla•45m ago
I tell my kids not to share shit with anyone now. It's hilarious to me that it was literally the first thing you did when I was their age.

Simpler times, I guess?

WD-42•1h ago
I just owned you all with Methodus Toolz!!1
edm0nd•1h ago
I'm loading up my 1IM punter now
chrisco255•49m ago
There's a great podcast about the old hacks and warez for AOL that interviews the developers, hackers, and AOL employees from that era: https://aolunderground.com/
paddy_m•2h ago
I was recently wondering if that was still running.
gnabgib•1h ago
Discussion (177 points, 2 days ago, 90 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44843369
echelon•1h ago
There was a mention of EarthLink in that thread. They still surprisingly have a very large office building in Atlanta.

They've also recently discontinued dialup.

soupfordummies•1h ago
I guess they’re only commercial, right? I’ve tried to get them at every place I’ve lived in Atl and they’ve never been available. A lot of places you don’t even get to choose between Comcast/at$t - it’s one or the other.
rco8786•22m ago
I'm just happy to be in the Google fiber service area
shmerl•1h ago
Did they still send AOL CDs to anyone in the recent times?
mikepurvis•1h ago
That would be crazy given that having a CD drive hasn't been standard on new laptops for like a decade— Apple's last portable computer with an optical drive was 2016.

According to ChatGPT, the final AOL free trial CDs were in 2006.

shmerl•1h ago
You would think dial up was dead already for a long time too, but apparently it wasn't.
RajT88•1h ago
The elderly and maybe the very rural. I have a tough time thinking there is anyone rural enough who would not go for satellite internet though. Satellite TV is pretty standard in the country.
ghaff•1h ago
I wonder how usable (probably pretty slow) dialup would be at this point. Somewhat of a comment of bloated web pages but also the reality.
chrisco255•1h ago
Probably only good for email at this point and I think for some that's fine.
chrisco255•1h ago
I think its just pricepoint. Dial up was like $20 or $25 a month. If someone cares so little about modern internet to be fine with dial up speeds, they don't want to spend the money for satellite internet plus the dish and installation costs.
shmerl•34m ago
Dial up bandwidth is of course bad, but how is latency in dial up vs satellite? Geosync orbit satellite latency is abysmal, unless you are talking about low orbit.
esseph•31m ago
LEO isn't great if you're surrounded by trees, unfortunately.

I know a lot of people that were previously unhappy with their old ISP, went to LEO, and then returned to their old ISP within 1-3 months.

echelon•1h ago
How much would it be to mass manufacture and mail CDs these days?

Feels like it would be a fun marketing gag.

chrisco255•1h ago
Yeah if anything you could print a qr code on it for people to download the content directly. Probably $1-$2 per disc.
drdeadringer•1h ago
Perhaps some type of retro futuristic nostalgia millennial gag.
mrandish•59m ago
That's actually a pretty genius idea if one were promoting a tech product with retro vibes and mailing to journalists/media. The main messaging would just be the color printing on the disc and sleeve as few would have a CD-ROM drive handy to play it, but those that do would love it if you put something cool on the disc (maybe a short Myst-like adventure with a product tie-in).

I still have a SATA CD/BD-ROM drive in my main PC system under the desk, not because I need or use it much but because the system is in an older tower PC case on wheels that I keep putting new mobos in because it's high-quality, flexible, roomy, quiet and has a ton of slide-out media bays. The CD-ROM has just stayed installed in the case as new mobos get installed and there's always extra SATA ports to plug it into.

austinallegro•1h ago
"You've got mail!.......It's not spam!"

RIP AOL dial up. Your free trial CD's provided many a day of comfort to my coffee mug over the years.

cwmoore•1h ago
While reading this headline, I heard a modem connection tone. Top that, AI.
SeanAnderson•1h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv69C2Laj9Q

:(

chrisco255•50m ago
All the clips: https://youtu.be/dFuUCpBbbHw?si=5RBStf1u1zPJLrKu
umanwizard•1h ago
I’m amazed to learn this still existed in 2025.
MalbertKerman•1h ago
How fitting that it ends with September, whether that's September 30th, 2025 or September 11718th, 1993.
Quekid5•48m ago
Eternal September is repeating itself.
akoster•47m ago
Nice Eternal September reference:

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended...

naz•1h ago
It was awful having to use AOL dialup in the UK. My parents used it (it was one of the few ISPs with freephone) so I was stuck with it. The problem was AOL routed all traffic through Virginia. For someone in the UK that meant a minimum of ~130ms ping, ruining online games and making everything super slow
mickeyp•1h ago
130ms ping with dialup was actually quite low. I suffered far higher with my dialup and it was a local isp.
giantrobot•13m ago
For games I would have done awful things for a ping that low on dial-up. More typical for me was over 200ms. I did everything I could to tweak MTU and modem settings but could never break the 200ms barrier (that I remember).
nly•1h ago
What? No Freeserve?
pixelesque•1h ago
Freeserve was free to buy, but you paid for it with the 0845 number (like with a lot of other ISPs in the late 90s) you had to dial.
etempleton•1h ago
My understanding years ago was that the service was surviving off of people who thought they still needed the service to access the internet even if they had broadband or kept paying for it even if they weren’t using it. Not sure if that is true or was just speculation.
GLdRH•21m ago
Sometimes an entertaining lie is better than a boring truth.
MiddleEndian•1h ago
My impression of AOL was mixed.

I never had it myself, but their dialup service either forced or heavily pushed their own browser, which encouraged the use of AOL keywords rather than URLs. Always thought of this as major negative and the start of heavy corporate control over the web. Seeing commercials list AOL keywords instead of their own websites annoyed me a lot, as did the transition to using myspace then facebook then twitter the instagram etc.

On the other hand, I liked AOL Instant Messenger a lot. It used XMPP so I could use other IM clients most of the time (namely Adium). On top of that, AOL Instant Messenger's Direct Connect feature was by far the easiest way to send files of any size* to your friends. Far more convenient than much of what exists today.

* Google suggests this limit may have been 4GB, but that was basically limitless in the 90s and early 2000s

user3939382•1h ago
AIM used their proprietary OSCAR protocol but there may have been a way to bridge it with XMPP.
palmfacehn•58m ago
Before OSCAR there was TOC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOC_protocol

MiddleEndian•51m ago
I was under the impression that AIM, Yahoo Messenger, and MSN all used XMPP. It seems that AIM added support for it in 2008, but Adium (and the other multi-chat clients) were just doing some magic to make it work seamlessly.
RHSeeger•43m ago
And Trillian.

I remember I had a pluging for Trillian that allowed me to write code to script it in Tcl. And then a plugin written in Tcl that allowed me to quicksearch my contacts. Good times.

duskwuff•35m ago
Definitely not. AIM, YIM, and MSN all used their own proprietary protocols, and multi-client messengers like Adium contained implementations of those protocols. There was no messaging between services (except AIM <-> ICQ), and some of the services supported features the others didn't.
Spooky23•29m ago
It’s the opposite, the web was the new disruptor and AOL served everyone AOL as a pre-web online service, which continued to be used by their legacy users for many years.

Pre-Internet AOL was like Yahoo in the 2000s which aped it on the Internet. Sort of a hybrid syndication machine like a magazine/newspaper/tv hybrid.

There was a few similar services, Prodigy was the one my family used. They basically did web commerce before the web. My dad even did banking. Prodigy was a joint venture between Sears and IBM and used an x.25 network behind the scenes powered by AS/400 iirc.

mrandish•57m ago
I'd love to know what AOL's dial-up MAU for July 2025 was. I still remember when the first consumer v.56 modems came out. They were expensive but it felt so fast. We were living in the future.
soganess•46m ago
56k v.90/v.92

My entire youth was making that mistake! I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one.

paulpauper•55m ago
Landfills all over the world rejoice

Dial up was a huge cash cow because of the remaining subscribers who never cancelled, likely because they forgot or gave up trying, and AOL made it famously hard to do so.

metamet•40m ago
I knew a family that exploited how hard it was to cancel by attempting to cancel every month and getting another free month. iirc, they did this for years until broadband was available.
DarkFuture•52m ago
Dial up was a painful period, sitting in school Monday-Friday thinking about what I'm going to surf in the weekend because that was the only time it was available for the package my parents had in 1998/1999 here in UK. Counting down the hours on Friday evening until it hits 12:00am.
acomjean•32m ago
Yeah. I think you got 6 hours a month (or something). One other aspect I didn’t like was when using and my hosemates picked up the phone I’d get disconnected, they’d be annoyed.
101008•17m ago
Similar experience but I think it made me value more my time online. That felt better. Now I'm online all the time!
jonplackett•51m ago
I wonder if anyone was still scrounging for copies of Computer World to get another free trial CD
iefbr14•48m ago
I wonder how many people are still actively using dialup and why. Frankly I cannot think of a single usecase.
ivape•34m ago
The thing is dial-up was transmitting data via sound. It would be kind of interesting if that ever made a comeback for encryption purposes. Maybe not exactly through wires and modem, but I could see a universe where messages are sent via videos that can only be decoded by certain people that are recording the audio.

I don't know why we would do that though. Maybe someone else can riff off this idea.

Pigalowda•11m ago
Maybe during electronic countermeasures? Only way to transmit information is through sound when the EM bandwidth is being disrupted.
nemomarx•31m ago
from the last thread, there are areas that had phone lines but never DSL or cable, so probably that and legacy customers using the other aol services
ChrisArchitect•47m ago
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44843369
seydor•31m ago
I wouldn't do that. What if the swishy sounds of modems come back in fashion like vinyl players did.
lostlogin•21m ago
I’ve got the sound as my ring tone. But my phone is usually on silent so I rarely get to hear it.
mtillman•30m ago
Fear not HN: https://sdf.org/?dialup
didip•29m ago
I wonder how many people are laid off in this shut down.