In case anyone else was wondering who "Simon" is, I'm pretty sure it refers to this editor: https://www.theregister.com/Author/Simon-Sharwood
Working in agtech, I’ve always wondered if this isn’t just the disenfranchised farmer story.
Give a farmer 1,000 acres to farm, and if they’re playing the long game, they’ll intermix their high value crops with responsible crop rotations. Managed well, this business can go on indefinitely.
But tell them they have 5 years left to farm the ground, and that the land will be of no value after that, they’ll grow the most expensive crop they can every year, soil quality be damned. It makes the most sense from a value extraction point of view.
Broadcom seems to be the kind of farmers that buy up forsaken land and extract as much value as possible before it finally fails.
> Many mid-market and regional operators view the new [subscription] structure as untenable and are actively exploring alternatives.. Nutanix emerged early as the leading competitive alternative to VMware.. over 2,700 new customers.. driven by organizations fleeing VMware's new pricing model.. [including] more than 50 Global 2000 companies, representing major enterprises willing to undertake complex, multi-year infrastructure overhauls.. With VMware serving approximately 200,000 customers globally, Nutanix sees most of the migration opportunity still ahead.
These aren't Broadcom's ICPs.
> Nutanix
Good for Nutanix. Market segmentation exists for a reason.
The article is also written by Steve McDowell, who's analyst firm (NAND Research) is sponsored by Nutanix [0][1]
Welcome to Enterprise Sales.
[0] - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93FbVZGDXoY
[1] - https://www.nutanix.com/theforecastbynutanix/technology/hype...
- RedHat OpenShift (k8s)
- Scale Computing HC3
- Wind River Cloud
- public cloud providers
Any other alternatives?Perl FTW, https://github.com/proxmox/pve-common
If you need 40,000 servers to keep your business running (which you don't, your ~3-8 million weekly transactions can be processed on 1 computer, but whatever), hire people that will work on you, and whose paycheck depends on keeping those computers working, to keep those computers working.
Game theory arguments like "they wouldn't screw me over because other people won't want to do business with them" don't work when the other party is trying to maximize quarterly earnings, and their long-term thinking is in the order of ~2 years.
That being said, I don’t see what 40k servers is for unless the POS machines are thin clients that use a substantial fraction of a server each.
In that sense I'm surprised it's only 40,000.
My point was not that running all that on one computer is a great idea, just that 40,000 servers for a CRUD application is way past what should be considered reasonable.
But even that's fine. I like computers, you can have 40,000 of them if you want, even if the only reason they exist is some guy's job security. However, you're insane if the guy keeping them running doesn't work for you.
Tell me you've never designed a system at this scale without telling me you've never designed something at this scale...
My point was not that running all that on one computer is a great idea...
Regardless, if you want to strawman my passing remark, I'm happy to defend it.Let's even say my numbers are wildly wrong, and they're processing 100x more transactions than what I claimed (which was already an overestimate). Tell me why you can't process 1600 transactions per second on one computer, especially for a country the size of the UK, where you would expect a ~15ms ping when talking to a server on the other side of the country.
Imagine being a company so big that your strategy is to kick your clients in the teeth then throttle revenue out of them.
I always dreaded renewal time because it was normal for them to use it as an opportunity to extort us. Microsoft was a breeze in comparison. It's funny because Microsoft always had such a horrible reputation. I don't know if I was just so abused by VMware or what, but Microsoft was just easy. We had an annual true-up date and we always knew where we stood with them. We reported our numbers and that was it. No surprises ever and there was never an issue if we didn't report any growth. VMware was always pulling some kind of shit and was absolutely determined to push us over budget every time.
VMware on the other hand is dying because doing things that way hasn't been the state of the art for a long time.
VMware has always been a PITA, even in the late 2000's, we pivoted and bought several thousand physical machines for a new datacenter after they started to play tricks just weeks before we were going to turn up the DC.
They have always aspired to be Oracle like, where customers are hostages. Most people I knew who weren't stuck in the "Enterprise" trap moved to kvm/zen ASAP especially after the Westmere dramatically reduced the vm_exit() latency allowing for databases etc...
That was over 15 years ago, and outside of a very small number of niche use cases, tehre was no real argument to run container hosts on Vmware outside of a (IMHO) mistaken risk appetite.
It is really the fruit that ate itself, as had IT departments had a more data based risk assessment process, we would probably be heavily hybrid-cloud now. But the same Enterprise gravy train that VMware grew under killed them.
Shifting blame at great expense in licensing and agility to an _Enterprise_ solution was their jam...now Broadcom owns them an it is even worse.
Enterprise software licensing, support contracts, and technical account managers (TAMs) often run into hundreds of thousands or millions annually per organization. Yet, in practice, support tickets go unresolved or ignored, even for large clients.
The software quality of our most expensive products is extremely poor and unreliable, almost across the board. Many products suffer from bugs, outdated features, or incompatibility issues that disrupt operations. In development roles, this means wasted time on workarounds, custom patches, or integrations that shouldn't be necessary. For a non-small organization, this scales up to significant productivity losses and hidden costs in overhead.
These companies actively alienate us, the customer, through their business practices. Changes like aggressive licensing shifts (e.g., moving from per-core to per-employee models) force reevaluations and migrations and eroding trust (i.e. Oracle with Java, VMWare fiasco). This isn't isolated—it's a pattern where short-term revenue grabs risk long-term relationships, yet companies seem unfazed.
This jacks the entire ecosystem up. These practices stifle innovation by locking customers into suboptimal tools, increase overall IT spend industry-wide, and contribute to employee burnout in dev and ops teams.
It seems like it’s a race to the bottom. The strategy is to create an ecosystem with high switching costs and vendor lock-in. It just doesn’t seem sustainable, yet- it keeps truckin’ along.
There is very little incentive to produce high-quality software, to not alienate your customers, and to support the thing you already sold. Those things cost money. Money paid for those things is money not paid to shareholders, and that's the ultimate incentive in our system.
They've got you by the balls, and secretly, your CEO thinks their CEO is a genius for thinking up and implementing that business model. Pay up.
The current breed of managers in the US have decided to fire developers, abuse customers (you have nowhere to go) and burn all the money on AI (they believe it’ll solve all their problems).
Morale will remain low until an alternative spawns. Kinda with electric cars. Europeans, Japanese and Koreans are now forced to up their game and lower their prices.
Broadcom is a Chinese company and they play their games on you. For example, when you register at Broadcom portal, they decide who can and who cannot get access to downloads. If you surf through forums, there are numerous occasions when they silently "disallow" folks from Ukraine, which is evidently the puppet play of Chinese governmental hand in action.
People would care a lot less if Broadcom had very gradually increase prices over 5 years or a decade, stopped support on version 7, stopped development on version 8 and gradually changed everything starting with version 9, but they decided in all their wisdom they wanted their investment back ASAP instead of waiting.
Maybe they should have looked at the licensing and support models Veeam uses.
wkat4242•3h ago
Unwritten terms like "valid until I decide to tear it up haha lol" are not generally appreciated by companies that depend on your stuff for their business. Of course you can extort your existing customers until they manage to move away but basically in the longer term you're suiciding your entire business.
spwa4•3h ago
With Kubernetes, actually fast storage if you need it. Can scale up to AI demands if you need it.
Or proxmox or the like if you're small enough.
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stego-tech•2h ago
Compared to standing up literally any Linux distro and KVM, K8s remains an overly complex PITA to get off the ground and integrated into an org on the cheap/free. In that area, it handily loses to even Microsoft Hyper-V in the “just get us going” category of business adoption/velocity.
I’d really, really like to see K8s more streamlined for initial deployment than it is. It’s getting better, but I generally still have to grudgingly recommend a premium, managed control plane for any serious deployment.
imglorp•1h ago
https://www.talos.dev
https://docs.k0sproject.io/v0.11.0/k0s-multi-node
stego-tech•1h ago
I don’t like it, but that’s how the current technology environment is unfortunately setup.
God help the enterprise software segment if customers realize 90% of their needs are served perfectly well with KVM+QEMU and VMs.
63stack•1h ago
stego-tech•1h ago
But the sheer work of getting to that point, safely and securely? It ruins the experience for me, personally.
spwa4•13m ago
Would there be real interest in a kubernetes distro that takes IPs and a (set of) domain names, and boots up on N nodes, installing letsencrypt, so that you can do a deployment and have ingress actually working?
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stego-tech•2h ago
I had to tell CurrentCo that I cannot reinstall their vSphere deployment at a client site because they bought a perpetual license, didn’t migrate it to Broadcom before they cut it off, and now we cannot simply go get the latest patch or appliance for that version number without inviting an audit and a sueball from Broadcom.
“Good thing Microsoft would never do that to us.”
Ha. Hahaha.
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dijit•2h ago
1) Have you ever been exposed to alternative communicators?
2) What features do you enjoy about teams
3) What platform are you using it from (Windows Desktop / Laptop? What spec)
4) Have you ever written a bot or integration?
5) Can you take me through a very brief working day for you, with a focus on collaborating with others.. (file sharing, online chats, IRL chats, meetings?)
axus•1h ago
1) WebEx and the open source chat that Oracle appropriated. Fortunately Zoom came and went too quickly.
2) Searching the Exchange corporate directory. BASIC features: status, embedding pictures, attaching files that Outlook would block. Sharing links that aren't obfuscated.
3) Can you even run Teams from Apple / Linux?
4) Ha! Imagine the nightmares for the person linking Atlassian and Teams.
5) Group texts, file shares, voice calls, recorded meetings. Meetings with groups from other companies is almost painless.
dijit•1h ago
Ok, then I can see why Teams ranks among them. I would invite you to try something like Zulip or Mattermost but I think ignorance is bliss and you should avoid knowing about anything that could be better. Your mind might do this for you (rejection) but best not to tempt fate.
> 2) Searching the Exchange corporate directory. BASIC features: status, embedding pictures, attaching files that Outlook would block. Sharing links that aren't obfuscated.
Appreciate the list, the only one of these that's Teams specific is searching a corp directory. Do you use the "Teams" functionality, or do you use the chat exclusively?
> 3) Can you even run Teams from Apple / Linux?
Yes, it's very slow. It's also very slow from laptops, the best "Teams experience" I've ever seen has been in GameDev where we all ran Windows 7 on dodecacore CPUs with 128-256G of DDR4.
It was still slower than Slack on my macbook air though.
> 4) Ha! Imagine the nightmares for the person linking Atlassian and Teams.
Yeah, people do. People also use Excel from within Teams.
Writing bots for Teams is a special nightmare, but webhooks can work.
> 5) Group texts, file shares, voice calls, recorded meetings. Meetings with groups from other companies is almost painless.
Do you spend a lot of your day face-to-face or more of your day in Teams?
Do you find yourself arranging meetings to sync rather than using the chat functionality?
Do you find that people have to ask around a lot to get an answer and then ask again later when it's forgotten, or can they find their answer in history?
masfuerte•1h ago
dijit•1h ago
Guess this means I wont' get to run Teams in the company I'm joining, which is doing all its security attestation via Microsoft;
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32678839
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axus•1h ago
My preference is text chat but we do a lot of unscheduled voice chats when screen-sharing is involved. In-person meetings are nice when possible, it's been easy enough to connect a Teams meeting from a conference room phone.
Before Teams I set up a Mattermost instance, and I think RocketChat integrated to GitLab? Nobody used those. As we all know the value in these things comes from network effects; with Teams corporate IT can set Teams as a startup app by Domain policy, now everyone in your company has to be online. That's the real killer feature.
mr_toad•1h ago
Unfortunately. Teams is just as performant on MacOS/iOS as it is on Windows.
lenkite•42m ago
javcasas•30m ago
That's how I run it.
ecshafer•1h ago
gotbeans•1h ago
I've been an msft employee for a couple of years and teams... Was ok. I prefer slack, but meetings, video, messaging, formatting, etc. was just fine in teams.
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dathinab•1h ago
well I have news for you ;=)
I pity the people who have to deliver news like that from time to time.
yndoendo•1h ago
Teams, that application IT is forcing me to use because they are a "Microsoft" house. Same application currently stating I'm on the _Calendar_ screen on the Task bar but actually in the _Chat_ screen; _Calendar_ bloatware feature and others have been removed and will always. Even when _Microsoft_ screws the user and force a reinstall of features after a Teams update.
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company that rejects quality user experience, QA, and is great at producing crap-ware. There is not a single product sell that I will spend a penny on. Still waiting on that 7+ year request to destroy | delete dangling pull request in Azure.
dcminter•17m ago
This is the kind of thing that gets tech people a bad reputation. YOU don't need Excel. I don't need excel - but that guy? You have no idea what he needs and if the people he's supporting need (or just want) Excel to get their jobs done it is incredibly arrogant to tell him what he does or doesn't need.
Now, I've loathed Microsoft since the 90s, but that makes me a weird and special little petal - it doesn't count for squat in business.
magicalhippo•2h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE
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stackskipton•2h ago
2 companies ago was heavily invested in VMware. It impacted monitoring, backups, deployments, networking, cloud migration and more. I can only shudder at level of effort they might be going through to get off VMware.
Because of that, they probably won’t for years even as Broadcom screws them over.
raverbashing•2h ago
VMWare may have hiked the prices and might be an important dependency but at a certain point it is cheaper to sue and/or switch from them.
Seems that they have gone way past this point
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