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Daily Driving GrapheneOS

https://blog.matthewbrunelle.com/8-4-months-of-daily-driving-grapheneos/
43•zdw•1h ago

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drnick1•40m ago
2027 will be the year of the Graphene phone.
sankalpmukim•29m ago
good writeup. I've been meaning to set this up for myself too. I keep uninstalling apps from my phone every other day because if I use something very little, I am afraid the app is collecting data from my usage in some way or the other.

I have a fairly new ish Pixel phone, do you think I'll be able to go back if I don't like it?

vbezhenar•24m ago
Yes, it's super simple to install GrapheneOS and to revert to the factory OS on Google Pixels. It is done from Chrome browser with phone connected via USB cable, no need to install anything. Of course when you'll switch, you'll lose all data on your phone, basically like factory reset (but esims survive I think).
microtonal•15m ago
I have a fairly new ish Pixel phone, do you think I'll be able to go back if I don't like it?

Yeah, it is very easy, it's described here:

https://grapheneos.org/install/web#replacing-grapheneos-with...

Similar to GrapheneOS, Google also has a web installer (linked from the above section). Just in case you didn't know - both installing GrapheneOS and recovering the stock OS will remove all data as well.

skeptic_ai•26m ago
I’ve tried but: couldn’t get my card to work on wallet. Can’t verify.

Uber couldn’t verify payment so I couldn’t take a ride when needed.

rudhdb773b•22m ago
Contactless payments are often a problem, but adding a card for Uber (directly in the app) should work. I use it frequently, along with Grab, Bolt, Maxim, etc.
foxes•8m ago
It's googles fault that cards can't work in graphene.

Google needs to whitelist graphene basically to work in the wallet app.

On that note, given that graphene is focused around security and privacy, perhaps not givng your payment data to google is probably a good thing

bestouff•7m ago
Strange, i'm using Uber regularly with GrapheneOS.
riedel•4m ago
Wallet was one of the reasons I abandoned my well working lineageOS phone on a redmi note 10 as it was a cat and mouse game over month. I feel as long as a vendor does not support an os and Google is so hostile against modifications, it is not a good feeling that they can pull the rug at any time. I was multiple times in the situation when I wanted to pay with the phone and was in the end rejected. I think we need to take NFC wallets and esims away from phone/os vendors again. A seperate NFC enabled vendor independent trusted platform would be IMHO the way to go. Especially with ID wallets and universal bank wallets on the way in Europe. This that they cannot use security as a killer argument to keep us in their walled gardens. I know the solution is cards or a second phone, but affordance counts.
vbezhenar•21m ago
TBH What I wanted from the world is AOSP distribution. Built similarly to GrapheneOS in terms of distribution, ease of install. But I just don't feel I need all these privacy enhancements and stuff, I'm perfectly fine with ordinary system compiled from Google sources with proper update schedule. Also I don't want to see anything installed out of the box, except maybe single app to install AOSP apps, F-Droid, Play Store, just APK from the given URL. So basically almost empty mobile OS which user fully customizes, no predefined choices, no custom patches.
riedel•19m ago
So what is wrong with lineage in this case?
vbezhenar•14m ago
I know very little about lineageos. Their website contains very few docs, so I don't really understand what's this project is about. They don't mention Pixel 10, so I guess it's not supported.

GrapheneOS website in comparison contains a lot of things to read, so after a hour of thorough reading I had good impression what GrapheneOS is.

cocoto•7m ago
Personally I would just love Apple to be forced by governments to open up their hardware by releasing complete documentation of their hardware and allowing to install another os or dual boot. iPhones hardware is really good and would love booting Linux on theses. And then force every services company to provide an API to their services so we have an alternative to their app. I guess Motorola partnering with GrapheneOS will not change anything in this space because contactless payments and some apps will not work and fundamentally because the sales will be way below mainstream brands like Apple/Samsung. Governments need to step up here.
Rnonymous•5m ago
I wish i could switch but bank apps and contactless payments keep me on stock...

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