I don't participate in this stuff anymore the dating app algos have put me in the ugly stack, sad but true
Also nowadays hard to tell if people are real
I mean, come on. This bullshit is what you said before.
You haven’t changed, you’re just pissed off you caught but a bit smug you got away with it scott free.
everdrive•58m ago
Are there exceptions? I'm sure. Will I be erring sometimes by being cautious? Definitely. But, there is really not much of an alternative these days.
stephenhuey•44m ago
Am I too idealistic? If such apps are not aggressively seeking hyper growth, it seems like these more trustworthy services could be deployed to cheap servers and let people use them for cheap without having to resort to selling user data.
throwway120385•36m ago
If we had a sort of "federated" system we'd still have this problem because you might always find yourself federated with someone who just wants to sell the information.
It's a cultural problem within this hyper-aggressive version of Capitalism that we've adopted, that even data about people has value. Until we decide as a culture that this kind of data sale or data use is shameful and unacceptable we'll be in this situation no matter what technical solution we adopt.
nemomarx•34m ago
kube-system•34m ago
On one spectrum, you have privacy -- at one extreme, the most private of people don't even use social apps, they are traditionally private people. At the other extreme, you have the highest consumers of apps -- the people who demand sharing the most.
On the other spectrum, you have technical acuity -- at one extreme you have people who can audit software they use and verify that it actually does what it says -- at the other extreme, you have people who have no clue and will believe whatever is convincing.
Given this, the market for "app that enables sharing, but has privacy controls, and is verifiably so" is a tiny circle somewhere in the middle of this grid.
JohnFen•4m ago
Unless the software sends data off to the cloud or a sever somewhere. You can't audit what happens there.
nonameiguess•18m ago
Ten years later, the social media revolution is in full swing, the relatively small service they built that had catered mostly to nerds was suddenly lucrative, and they sell to Match Group and this happens.
To be entirely fair to these guys, I don't think they came into it intending to sell out as their long-term goal. But four guys who got into data analytics in college also didn't find themselves as their mid-30s approached particularly wanting to run a dating service for the rest of their lives, either.
Whatever happened to FetLife? If any dating service had to be privacy-focused, that was it.
JohnFen•17m ago
The real problem is how to trust that a "privacy-focused" app is actually privacy-focused. You certainly can't take the publisher's word for it.
The only safe stance is to withhold as much personal information from as much software and services as possible.
pesus•6m ago
uoaei•4m ago