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The startup's Postgres survival guide

https://hatchet.run/blog/postgres-survival-guide
50•abelanger•3h ago•14 comments

10 REM"_(C2SLFF4

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84•ingve•3h ago•20 comments

OpenAI and Hugging Face address security incident during model evaluation

https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/
1453•mfiguiere•19h ago•980 comments

Introduction to Formal Verification with Lean Part 1

https://hashcloak.com/blog/tutorial-introduction-to-formal-verification-with-lean-(part-1)
164•badcryptobitch•2d ago•23 comments

I Built a Private Genomics Study with Stoffel MPC

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Kimi K3 Is Competitive with Fable; Kimi K3 and Fable Is SoTA

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807•piotrgrabowski•17h ago•410 comments

Drake Anthony Recreates the Mechanical Bulb First Seen in 1675 – TechEBlog

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25•rbanffy•6d ago•5 comments

Intel Starts Shipping High-NA EUV Silicon

https://morethanmoore.substack.com/p/intel-starts-shipping-high-na-euv
187•zdw•3d ago•73 comments

Cornell's Interactive Wall of Birds

https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/features/wallofbirds/?_hsmi=428996456
50•yareally•3d ago•21 comments

Advertise in ChatGPT

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1005•montecarl•20h ago•772 comments

Original Apollo 11 Guidance Computer source code for command and lunar modules

https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11
134•noteness•10h ago•42 comments

Judge approves $1.5B Anthropic settlement for pirated books used to train Claude

https://apnews.com/article/ai-anthropic-copyright-settlement-claude-books-bartz-74b140444023898ae...
514•BeetleB•20h ago•488 comments

FreeInk: Open ecosystem for e-readers

https://freeink.org/
669•FriedPickles•21h ago•145 comments

Most Americans Say "Not in My Backyard" to AI Data Centers

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31•toomuchtodo•1h ago•37 comments

OpenNode – Bitcoin Payment Processor

https://opennode.com/
53•gurjeet•1h ago•46 comments

Late.sh – a command-line Clubhouse for computer people

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264•itherseed•13h ago•96 comments

OverpAId – Fire your CEO. Hire the future

https://overpaid.lol
562•ignaloidas•4h ago•272 comments

Never Enough

https://dark.ronacher.eu/2026/7/21/never-enough/
154•reasonableklout•12h ago•63 comments

A digestion of the Jacobian conjecture counterexample

https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2026/07/21/a-digestion-of-the-jacobian-conjecture-counterexample/
300•jeremyscanvic•18h ago•126 comments

ScreenWall – Turn old phones into synced widgets for your space

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80•buibuibui•5d ago•31 comments

It's a shame what's happened to radio

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188•sonicrocketman•16h ago•208 comments

Long presumed dead, a thriving coral reef is discovered in West Africa

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/benin-coral-reef
383•speckx•23h ago•85 comments

Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting

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359•ryanmerket•22h ago•315 comments

Apple defeats liability for not scanning iCloud for CSAM

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442•speckx•1d ago•490 comments

Ten Steps Towards Happiness (2015)

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200•emerongi•14h ago•91 comments

"Drawing" the Mona Lisa with GPT-5.6, Claude, Gemini, and Grok

https://www.tryai.dev/blog/ai-drawing-arena-colored-pencils-claude-gpt-grok
240•hershyb_•18h ago•89 comments

Why do you suck at juggling now?

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73•surprisetalk•1w ago•49 comments

Overload and insight look identical from the outside

https://pilgrima.ge/p/what-the-wire-knows
15•momentmaker•3d ago•2 comments

OpenAI Models Escaped and Hacked a Company in Cybersecurity Test Gone Wrong

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-models-escaped-and-hacked-a-company-in-cybersecurity-test-gone...
10•flippyhead•1h ago•0 comments

Laguna S 2.1

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386•rexledesma•22h ago•72 comments
Open in hackernews

Mac app launches slowed by malware scan (2024)

https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2024/2/3.html
118•username223•1y ago
Follow-up: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2025/5/1.html

Comments

lapcat•1y ago
Author here. It's unclear why HN is interested in this post, because it's just a response to another blogger's recent posts, which weren't even submitted to HN. Visitors aren't going to have the background context.

My original post "Mac app launches slowed by malware scan" was submitted to HN last year, though it received 0 comments at the time. https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2024/2/3.html

username223•1y ago
Submitter here. I submitted it because it explains a bug I recently encountered. Other people apparently found it useful. Should I delete it?
lapcat•1y ago
> Should I delete it?

Is that even possible?

Anyway, I just think my 2024 post is a better place to start, because it explains the issue directly, whereas this new post simply refutes another blogger and argues that there's nothing new beyond my 2024 post. That interpersonal drama/conflict probably isn't going to be understandable or useful to readers.

tough•1y ago
@dang or mods can replace a main discussion link if they think its apt/good for the final user you might write to the email on the footer of this page to reach them
dang•1y ago
Ok, we've switched to that from https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2025/5/1.html above, and I'll add a link to the follow-up to the top text.
carlosjobim•1y ago
EVERYBODY: You can fix the Affinity slow start-up problem on MacOS in a simple step:

Go to your App folder and duplicate the "Affinity Photo 2" app. Then remove the original and use the duplicate.

Now Affinity starts in 2 seconds instead of in 30 seconds on my M3 machine.

dijit•1y ago
Why does this work?
carlosjobim•1y ago
I have no idea. I found it deeply buried in a support forum the other day.
saagarjha•1y ago
I think I checked this once and it was doing Rosetta translation
pier25•1y ago
I just updated to the latest version and Affinity Photo 2 opens in seconds now.
spiffotron•1y ago
I'd legitimately love to know why this has worked wtf
mmastrac•1y ago
I bet you could get the same results by duplicating the inner binary only rather than the whole folder. I saw something very similar with terminal apps.

The blog post doesn't mention this app - am I missing something?

larrywright•1y ago
I wonder if this is why Fusion 360 is so slow to start. It's by far the slowest app on my relatively modern M1 MacBook Pro.
Avamander•1y ago
It's slow on almost everything, so I kinda doubt macOS is to blame.
longtimelistnr•1y ago
Never saw a CAD app boot fast... Shapr3D is the best but something as advanced as Fusion or Solidworks has always been slow to open
m3047•1y ago
TIL: MacOS ships with YARA.
john-h-k•1y ago
I’ve got a personal project compiler I built and it’s hit by this very hard. Testing involves (naturally) generating lots of executables. Running it in a Linux docker container takes around ~1s for all 500 tests. macOS by default takes around a _minute_, and even with the workarounds I’ve found (“allow untrusted software to be run by iterm2”) it takes 5-8 seconds.

It’s a pretty niche use case but it’s deeply frustrating

krackers•1y ago
> Macs have a cache of SHA-256 hashes of all bundled files of all apps that have been launched. But where exactly is this cache

I always assumed this had to be the case? When you first launch an application gatekeeper takes a long time verifying it, but on subsequent launches it's fast. So _some_ bit seems to be stored somewhere indicating whether or not this is "first launch" and whether full verification needs to be performed (maybe it's the launch services cache?)

As for whether the entire image is verified before _each_ launch, I'm not 100% familiar with the flow but I don't think that's correct, it can be done lazily on a page by page basis. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/endpointsecurity/e...

>In the specific case of process execution, this is after the exec completes in the kernel, but before any code in the process starts executing. At that point, XNU has validated the signature itself and has verified that the cdhash is correct. This second validation means that the hash of all individual page hashes in the Code Directory match the signed cdhash, essentially verifying the signature wasn’t tampered with. However, XNU doesn’t verify individual page hashes until the binary executes and pages in the corresponding pages. XNU doesn’t determine a binary shows signs of tampering until the individual pages page in, at which point XNU updates the code signing flags.

If you can replicate this on an Intel mac where code signature is optional, you could try more rigorous comparisons comparing an unsigned binary vs a signed one. In both cases I'd assume yara signature checks would apply.

lapcat•1y ago
> So _some_ bit seems to be stored somewhere indicating whether or not this is "first launch"

Yes, of course.

How do you go from that to "a cache of SHA-256 hashes of all bundled files of all apps that have been launched"?

krackers•1y ago
Isn't there some cache of code-signing info? https://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Code_Signing_for_macOS

>Specifically, the code signing information (code directory hash) is hung off the vnode within the kernel, and modifying the file behind that cache will cause problems. You need a new vnode, which means a new file, that is, a new inode. Documented in WWDC 2019 Session 703 All About Notarization - see slide 65 (PDF).

This seems to be described in https://eclecticlight.co/2024/04/29/apfs-beyond-to-vfs-and-v... but I'm just a layman here. I don't quite understand the benefits of this caching if you have to recompute them to detect mismatch anyway. [1]

And I realize now the initial gatekeeper scan is probably just controlled by presence of quarantine bit, the result themselves are probably not cached.

Edit: Now I'm not so sure, spctl has a --ignore-cache option. So the result of gatekeeper is indeed cached somehow. And presumably as you noted it's a cache miss for this which causes the long application launch delay.

[1] https://github.com/golang/go/issues/42684 has a bit more info on this, I'm happy to see that even seasoned experts are confused about these things.

davb•1y ago
Related, I found that even after designating an application (iTerm2) as a "Developer Tool" in System Settings -> Privacy & Security, there were circumstances where notarisation checks were still carried out. Particularly, launching tmux then detaching and reattaching would cause the processes to no longer be exempt. This applies to any executable (+x), including shell scripts. I put together a test script that proves it at https://gist.github.com/davebarkerxyz/4111276ae1fb4a7566b271... (the second run is much quicker than the first one after a tmux reattach, but within applications marked as Developer Tools the times should be nearly identical).

Fortunately as of Sequoia (15.4.1), I'm no longer able to reproduce the issue.

eviks•1y ago
> doubt that the built-in system libraries are scanned for malware, because they reside on a separate cryptographically-signed read-only disk volume.

Would be nice to be able to do the same for user apps and only scan on volume updates (when app update) instead of the current constant waste of time and energy

musicale•1y ago
syspolicyd rears its ugly head again.
carlosjobim•1y ago
The follow up blog post published today mentions Affinity. It's also one of the worst apps to start slowly on macos.
keyle•1y ago
That's mind boggling. I always wondered why it takes so long to open. Is it a shady deal with Adobe and Apple?
jdiff•1y ago
There is absolutely no reason to jump immediately to conspiracy here.
Tagbert•1y ago
Does this still load as fast. I have found that, after you have run the app once, it will load very quickly for a day or so and then load more slowly again. I believe that there is a cached state which does not run the slow check and which expires after a while and a new check must be run.

It has been two days since I ran Affinity Photo, latest version, and it took about 30 sec to load.

carlosjobim•1y ago
This fixes the problem permanently.
ksec•1y ago
I think this needs blog post and a much deeper explanation.
lapcat•1y ago
> This seems to be described in https://eclecticlight.co/2024/04/29/apfs-beyond-to-vfs-and-v... but I'm just a layman here. I don't quite understand the benefits of this caching if you have to recompute them to detect mismatch anyway.

It appears that Howard Oakley is once again very confused. Unfortunately, his blog is sometimes a foundation of misinformation, which drives me nuts. The Apple technical note that he links to is talking about a process updating itself at runtime while its code signing information is cached by the kernel in memory. Oakley has somehow warped that into a some kind of disk cache, using the odd phrasing "saved to the kernel's cache against the vnode".

> spctl has a --ignore-cache option. So the result of gatekeeper is indeed cached somehow.

Yes. I think it's in /var/db? But again, it's not a cache of the hashes of every file in the app bundle. What would the system even do with that? Not only is there no evidence for the existence of such a thing, but its existence would make no practical sense. Oakley is simply grasping for something that takes a significant amount of time computationally, without giving much consideration to what would be done with the products of that computation.

> And presumably as you noted it's a cache miss for this which causes the long application launch delay.

No, I've showed that it's a periodic malware scan.

bdash•1y ago
What's most amusing is that in the most recent blog post (https://eclecticlight.co/2025/04/30/why-some-apps-sometimes-...), the handful of log statements that serve as the source of the claim in fact confirm that it is syspolicyd performing a malware scan that is responsible for the delay during launch.

11.012004 com.apple.syspolicy.exec Recording cache miss for <private>

20.898736 AppleSystemPolicy Waking up reference: 174

The first of the two messages is from `syspolicyd` and is reporting that it has no cached malware scan result for a file it was asked to scan. The malware scan is triggered by an up-call within the AppleSystemPolicy kernel extension during a MACF hook (`proc_notify_exec_complete`, `file_check_library_validation`, or `file_check_mmap`) if the kext doesn’t have a cached malware scan result for the vnode of the file in question.

The second log message is from the AppleSystemPolicy kernel extension when it receives the result of the malware scan and permits the process to resume execution.

It's a little puzzling that the original analysis is published based on speculation, without any real attempt at verifying that the data supports their hypothesis. Looking at `top` or Activity Monitor during the slow launch would show which process is performing work. A spindump captured during the slow launch would reveal what work it is doing. The system log store captures the process and subsystem that logged any given message. A few minutes in Binary Ninja or Hopper gives you a rough idea of what the code that emits the log is doing.

lapcat•1y ago
Oakley's brain just seems to be stuck in a loop of misunderstanding and mistaken assumptions. He gave the same bizarre response to me that he gave to you:

"The only feature in macOS that I know of that matches that description is what Apple terms XProtect, and there are only two (in Sequoia, previously one) sets of Yara rules in macOS. Now if I’m missing something, please tell me where those other Yara rules are." https://eclecticlight.co/2025/04/22/why-some-apps-launch-ver...

"Well, the only Yara rules that I know of in macOS are those in the XProtect bundle. Do you know of any others?" https://eclecticlight.co/2025/04/30/why-some-apps-sometimes-...