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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

https://skyfall.dev/posts/slack
1106•JustSkyfall•7h ago•533 comments

This Website Has No Class

https://aaadaaam.com/notes/no-class/
23•robin_reala•45m ago•9 comments

WASM 3.0 Completed

https://webassembly.org/news/2025-09-17-wasm-3.0/
878•todsacerdoti•15h ago•367 comments

Meta Ray-Ban Display

https://www.meta.com/blog/meta-ray-ban-display-ai-glasses-connect-2025/
393•martpie•8h ago•545 comments

Show HN: The text disappears when you screenshot it

https://unscreenshottable.vercel.app/?text=Hello
211•zikero•7h ago•78 comments

Pnpm has a new setting to stave off supply chain attacks

https://pnpm.io/blog/releases/10.16
24•ivanb•2h ago•18 comments

History of the Gem Desktop Environment

https://nemanjatrifunovic.substack.com/p/history-of-the-gem-desktop-environment
24•ibobev•2h ago•7 comments

A postmortem of three recent issues

https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/a-postmortem-of-three-recent-issues
284•moatmoat•12h ago•93 comments

One Token to rule them all – Obtaining Global Admin in every Entra ID tenant

https://dirkjanm.io/obtaining-global-admin-in-every-entra-id-tenant-with-actor-tokens/
192•colinprince•10h ago•32 comments

Boring is good

https://jenson.org/boring/
177•zdw•2d ago•40 comments

Hypervisor 101 in Rust

https://tandasat.github.io/Hypervisor-101-in-Rust/
109•pykello•8h ago•9 comments

Orange Pi RV2 $40 RISC-V SBC: Friendly Gateway to IoT and AI Projects

https://riscv.org/ecosystem-news/2025/09/orange-pi-rv2-40-risc-v-sbc-friendly-gateway-to-iot-and-...
50•warrenm•2d ago•42 comments

CERN Animal Shelter for Computer Mice

https://computer-animal-shelter.web.cern.ch/index.shtml
11•EbNar•2h ago•2 comments

Towards a Physics Foundation Model

https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.13805
54•NeoInHacker•6h ago•12 comments

YouTube addresses lower view counts which seem to be caused by ad blockers

https://9to5google.com/2025/09/16/youtube-lower-view-counts-ad-blockers/
355•iamflimflam1•18h ago•649 comments

How to Debug Chez Scheme Programs (2002)

https://www.scheme.com/debug/debug.html
32•swatson741•2d ago•1 comments

Stepping Down as Libxml2 Maintainer

https://discourse.gnome.org/t/stepping-down-as-libxml2-maintainer/31398
83•zdw•9h ago•43 comments

Show HN: 47jobs – A Fiverr/Upwork for AI Agents

https://47jobs.xyz
7•the_plug•1d ago•11 comments

Rendezvous Hashing Explained (2020)

https://randorithms.com/2020/12/26/rendezvous-hashing.html
15•Bogdanp•2d ago•1 comments

Ton Roosendaal to step down as Blender chairman and CEO

https://www.cgchannel.com/2025/09/ton-roosendaal-to-step-down-as-blender-chairman-and-ceo/
309•cma•16h ago•62 comments

How Container Filesystem Works: Building a Docker-Like Container from Scratch

https://labs.iximiuz.com/tutorials/container-filesystem-from-scratch
29•thunderbong•3d ago•0 comments

A QBasic Text Adventure Still Expanding in 2025

https://the-ventureweaver.itch.io/
41•ATiredGoat•7h ago•15 comments

Optimizing ClickHouse for Intel's 280 core processors

https://clickhouse.com/blog/optimizing-clickhouse-intel-high-core-count-cpu
191•ashvardanian•14h ago•44 comments

Apple Photos app corrupts images

https://tenderlovemaking.com/2025/09/17/apple-photos-app-corrupts-images/
1100•pattyj•22h ago•391 comments

U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

https://www.wsj.com/tech/details-emerge-on-u-s-china-tiktok-deal-594e009f
407•Mgtyalx•1d ago•576 comments

Tinycolor supply chain attack post-mortem

https://sigh.dev/posts/ctrl-tinycolor-post-mortem/
159•STRiDEX•16h ago•62 comments

DeepMind and OpenAI win gold at ICPC

https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/146536
223•notemap•15h ago•211 comments

Drought in Iraq reveals tombs created 2,300 years ago

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/severe-droughts-in-iraq-reveals-dozens-of-ancient-tombs...
136•pseudolus•16h ago•23 comments

Launch HN: RunRL (YC X25) – Reinforcement learning as a service

https://runrl.com
64•ag8•17h ago•16 comments

European ant is the first known animal to clone members of another species

https://www.livescience.com/animals/ants/almost-like-science-fiction-european-ant-is-the-first-kn...
96•zdw•4h ago•25 comments
Open in hackernews

Show HN: Representing Agents as MCP Servers

https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent/tree/main/examples/mcp_agent_server
58•saqadri•3mo ago
Hey HN! A few months ago we shared mcp-agent (https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent) [1][2], a lightweight framework that implements every agent pattern from Anthropic’s Building Effective Agents blog [3] and handles MCP server/client management seamlessly. Our core bet is that connecting LLMs to tools, resources, and external systems will soon be MCP-native by default.

Today we're launching a significant update: Agents as MCP servers.

Currently "agentic" behavior exists only on the MCP client side – clients like Claude or Cursor use MCP servers to solve tasks. With this update, Agents can be MCP servers themselves, so that any MCP client can invoke, coordinate and orchestrate agents the same way it does with any other MCP server.

This paradigm shift enables: 1. Agent Composition: Build complex multi-agent systems over the same base protocol (MCP). 2. Platform Independence: Use your agents from any MCP-compatible client 3. Scalability: Run agent workflows on dedicated infrastructure, not just within client environments 4. Customization: Develop your own agent workflows and reuse them across any MCP client.

How an agent server is implemented:

We’ve implemented this in mcp-agent with Workflows. Each workflow is an agent application that can interact with other MCP servers (e.g. summarizing GitHub issues → Slack message). mcp-agent exposes workflows as MCP tools on an MCP Agent Server [5]:

- workflows/list – list available workflows - workflows/{WorkflowName}/run – Execute the workflow (async) - workflows/{WorkflowName}/get_status – Check workflow status - workflows/{WorkflowName}/resume – Resume paused workflow (e.g. with human input) - workflows/{WorkflowName}/cancel – Terminate workflow

We’ve also implemented Temporal for durable execution [6], so agent workflows can be paused, resumed and retried in production settings.

This demo [7] shows Claude invoking an MCP agent server, running workflows when appropriate, and polling for status. It basically shows agentic behavior on both the MCP client and MCP server side.

We're excited about the potential this unlocks—especially as more applications become MCP-compatible clients. We'd love your feedback and ideas!

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42867050

[2] - https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent

[3] - https://www.anthropic.com/research/building-effective-agents

[4] - https://github.com/github/github-mcp-server

[5] - https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent/tree/main/examples/...

[6] - https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent/tree/main/examples/...

[7] - https://youtu.be/pLe2GAjEoYs [DEMO]

Comments

msamadi•3mo ago
This is a fascinating evolution of the MCP ecosystem. How are you thinking about agent discovery, authentication, and trust in a world where agents are both clients and servers
saqadri•3mo ago
Authentication and authorization is something we are thinking about a lot at the moment, especially for agents that are MCP servers.

Our thoughts here are to handle auth the same way that the MCP spec outlines auth (https://modelcontextprotocol.io/specification/2025-03-26). The key thing is to send authorization requests back to the user in a structured way. For example, if Agent A invokes Agent B, which requires user approval for executing a tool call, that authorization request needs to be piped back to the client, and then propagated back to the agent.

This is technically possible to do with the MCP protocol as it exists today, but I think we will want to add that support in mcp-agent itself so it is easy to pause an agent workflow waiting for authentication/authorization.

One nice property of representing agents as MCP servers is that Agent discovery is the same as server discovery.

yujian•3mo ago
i've used this repo, it's a great starter pack
saqadri•3mo ago
Would love your feedback on the Temporal support and the MCP agent server concept which we merged in yesterday
SlimIon729•3mo ago
That's great to hear! We'd love to know more about your experience and any thoughts you have on it.
Beefin•3mo ago
Super cool direction. Making agents first-class MCP servers feels like a natural next step—especially for scaling multi-agent coordination across infra boundaries. Curious how you’re handling observability at the server level—do you expose structured logs or telemetry for workflows running across agents? This could be huge for debugging large-scale agentic chains.
saqadri•3mo ago
This is exactly what we're working on at the moment! (If you're curious about following along progress, check out feature/distributed_tracing branch -- https://github.com/lastmile-ai/mcp-agent/tree/feature/distri...)

The nice thing about representing agents as MCP servers is we can leverage distributed tracing via OTEL to log multi-agent chains. Within the agent application, mcp-agent tracing follows the LLM semantic conventions from OpenTelemetry (https://opentelemetry.io/docs/specs/semconv/gen-ai/). For any MCP server that the agent uses, we propagate the trace context along.

datadrivenangel•3mo ago
Really cool, but it seems like recursive agents are going to bog down into microservice hell.
scottcha•3mo ago
Yeah, that was my first thought. I actually wrote a blog post a few weeks ago modeling the point at which agent recursion really gets out of control. https://www.neuralwatt.com/blog/agent-bedlam-a-future-of-end...
esafak•3mo ago
Agents should be given a time budget, which they can allot to other agents as they see fit. And it's easy to enforce: you kill the process after the allotted time.
saqadri•3mo ago
Agreed. Time, token, cost budget caps would be a great addition. Will add it as a feature request :)
SlimIon729•3mo ago
That's a valid concern. In `hacker-news-agents`, we're exploring ways to manage the complexity of multi-agent interactions. Perhaps a structured approach to agent communication and state could mitigate some of that 'microservice hell' feel.
saqadri•3mo ago
I think that's a fair point. How I envision this to realistically evolve is that MCP servers will expose workflows that handle common tasks. These workflows will be "agentic" because they'll involve LLMs interacting with tools and data, and it will be facilitated over MCP. For example, it would be great to have a "triage" workflow agent exposed by Linear, which in turn might use some MCP servers to make tool calls etc.

I don't know of a usecase where there are such deep recursive agent chains that it becomes unmanageable.

I almost think of mcp-agents as a modern form of scripting – we have agent workflows (e.g. generating a summary of new GitHub issues and posting on Slack), and exposing them as MCP servers has enabled us to use them in our favorite MCP clients.

max_on_hn•3mo ago
This is super cool! We use a similar approach for CheepCode: our agent process connects to an MCP server that then "drives" the rest of the interaction.

This paradigm feels like the obvious next step for agents. It more closely models human interaction (to the degree that this is desirable) and unlocks a lot of optimizations + powerful functionality.

It is going to be an exciting rest of the year!

3abiton•3mo ago
This a bit confusing, and maybe I am missing a piece of the puzzle, are mcp agents and mcp clients being used interchangeably?
saqadri•3mo ago
This diagram might be helpful: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrgGy2jWQAAittE?format=jpg&name=...