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Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme
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Show HN: An e-ink frame that hears birds and draws them as 1800s illustrations

https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme
136•arnemunthekaas•1h ago

Comments

arnemunthekaas•1h ago
Author here. A mic listens to the sounds in my garden, BirdNET-Go (an open-source BirdNET classifier) detects birds by sound, and the e-ink frame draws a real 1800s natural-history illustration of each one as it hears them. Here’s a live web-demo from my garden in Bergen, Norway: https://fugleramme.arnegiacomo.dev

A few things that might be interesting:

- The screen only redraws when the set of birds changes, and dithers the collage down to six colours for the e-ink display.

- Bigger birds sit toward the centre, scaled by real body mass.

- 800+ cutouts across 400+ species, each cut from a real public domain plate. All art is historic and human-made. Coverage is currently best for the Nordics, Britain and Germany (but other parts of the world are in the works).

- Runs fully local on a Raspberry Pi or your homelab (yes, even the classifier runs great on a RPI)

The e-ink panel is optional and it can run web-only in a container against a BirdNET-Go you already have.

Happy to answer any questions!

smeej•18m ago
Do you have your image source available somewhere? I'm not going to build this same thing, but I'd love to add some prints of birds to my shelves and, not knowing much about birds, it would help to have a set of pictures I could look through and go, "Ooh! This one!" and learn about them. It'd be a good jumping on point!
arnemunthekaas•16m ago
Yeah, all art i attributed an linked in https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/tree/main/assets/a.... Check the manifest for exact sources
onionisafruit•14m ago
If I were to make one of these as a Christmas present for somebody in Texas, and I wanted to contribute work toward good coverage for the area, how big of a time commitment would that be? It sounds like the kind of hobby work I could get into for a few months.
firmretention•51m ago
This is such a cool idea and I want to build one. I wish I had this kind of creativity. I can do the hardware/software side, but great ideas elude me.
away0g•19m ago
are you setting yourself up to record ideas as they happen?
mungoman2•49m ago
Now this is why I come here!

Amazing thing, will replicate.

jiwidi•48m ago
Isnt this a fork* of https://x.com/WarnerTeddy/status/2060018688645115964?

https://github.com/Twarner491/AvianVisitors

https://theodore.net/projects/AvianVisitors/

Or maybe im missing to see is the same author? It went viral a few months ago

tencentshill•46m ago
This one seems to be more North European focused
jiwidi•44m ago
Its awful close with no attribution or mention of the original project, which should be the minimum i feel like.
KaiserPro•35m ago
true, but we are assuming that the author is aware of the other repo
arnemunthekaas•34m ago
Original author here. Fair point, this project was one of my inspirations, but I chose to take a different approach. This uses public domain natural history art and builds on top of BirdNET-Go which is a popular way of self-hosting bird-detections. (This is really a BirdNET-Go companion, as it cannot run without).

I've seen other similar projects pop up like https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame and https://github.com/adamoberley/HABirdDashboard/tree/HABirdDa..., each with their own spin.

fnands•34m ago
Very cool!

I wish E-ink displays were a bit more affordable. The 13 inch one is £229.50. Does anyone know why they are still so expensive, at least at large sizes?

eckelhesten•30m ago
Patents and greed in a combination.
pjerem•28m ago
You have to distinguish the fake color e-ink that are used in mass consumer products which are actually black&white e-ink plus an LCD layer and are expensive, and the real color e-ink where each micro capsule embeds 3 to 5 different inks of different colors.

The latest are pretty complex devices, very slow to refresh (hence why they are not used in your e-reader) and also very expensive. But the rendering is way much nicer because it’s real ink that is used to render the colors.

whiskers•7m ago
This project will work with a 7.3" display just as well - they are £79.50! https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/inky-impression?variant=5...

Disclaimer: I am the CEO of Pimoroni :-)

bronlund•31m ago
Artig! :)
practicalsystem•27m ago
oh I need to build this for my mom she would love it!
misetech•21m ago
I would like to build something which can do the exact opposite. Sounds from illustrations.
nsbk•19m ago
Very cool, but IMO not mentioning https://theodore.net/projects/AvianVisitors/ as an inspiration is a very ugly move from the author
arnemunthekaas•17m ago
Duly noted, I'll reference this, as well as other similar projects in the readme. Thanks for the feedback
nsbk•10m ago
Fair! Also, I would love to build this myself as I'm moving out of the city and to the countryside soon.

I'm based off Spain, so I'll be happy to contribute if I find missing Iberian and Mediterranean species, or if some cool feature idea comes up :)

RGS1811•17m ago
This is one of the most wonderful uses of AI I've seen in a while.
telesilla•15m ago
I agree. It's such a pity Cats don't recognize images, would make for wonderful CatTV.
meteyor•11m ago
I love this! I have a forest garden with lots of birds. I so want to try this project asap!
jiwidi•30m ago
That's fair, and I totally get wanting to give it your own spin.

I still think it would be good to acknowledge the original project that sparked the idea, especially now that you've mentioned it was one of the inspirations.

Definitely keep going with yours and evolve it further. That's how good projects grow. But for a healthy open source community, I think we should make a point of crediting the people whose work inspires us. Otherwise, over time, it can discourage people from sharing their projects publicly in the first place.

carb•38m ago
I agree I would expect a reference. Another difference between this an AvianVisitors is the image sources. AvianVisitors is all AI generated with a consistent prompt, but OP's is using chiefly public domain images with retouching by AI as needed.
jiwidi•34m ago
Yeah agree

I understand OP is continuing the work and improving it as he sees fit, but that in my mind is a fork and should aknowledge the initial work that sparked it.

Maybe i'm wrong tho and this is completely parallel work! Waiting for OPs reply

arnemunthekaas•31m ago
Hi, yeah I'm not basing any of my coding or feature-work on that project. My biggest source of inspiration is actually just a paper poster I have hanging on my wall https://www.axelthorenfeldt.com/news/wwf-verdens-naturfonds-.... I wanted to make a version of that, showing the actual birds in my garden.
delichon•28m ago
I accuse you of having good taste.
wccrawford•36m ago
The new one appears to use real art from real humans, instead of AI art that was fixed.

And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of the other.

jiwidi•28m ago
My mistake for calling it "copy", should have said fork maybe (?)

They are awful close to still require a reference to the original project imo. They are achieving the same output (identify birds and display them in a frame display all hosted in a raspberry pi) with that twist to how to generate the art.

arnemunthekaas•25m ago
Author here: I'll take any feedback and critisism. I haven't based any of my work on his project, but will consider referencing it as a similar one in the readme, as well as e.g. https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame.
jdiff•24m ago
What is "the new one"? The old one used AI, and this one seems to as well.
arnemunthekaas•21m ago
Author here: It doesn't, well at least not art-wise. All sources are attributed in https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a... and https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a...
DavCreator•29m ago
https://xxcancel.com/WarnerTeddy/status/2060018688645115964