https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Ol...
Letting an advertising company own it is not.
There’s a few different cases, one recent one Google has lost and is now in the “remedy” phase. Meaning the court has officially decided Google did bad, and is now considering what to make Google do about it. And splitting up Google into separate Chrome, search, etc companies is completely on the table.
Some reading:
https://www.theverge.com/23869483/us-v-google-search-antitru...
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/google-found-guilty-of-mo...
For all the hate it got, IE was nowhere near as privacy-invasive as any of the "modern" browsers now, even Firefox. If you configured it to open with a blank page, it would quietly do so and make zero unsolicited network requests.
Thx. Even the source in the slashdot article links to msn...
All very confusing.
No idea what kind of deal these places have with Microsoft.
Ditching these deeply invasive products remains a good idea, independent on any decision to use ad blockers or not.
The Meta/Yandex incident in particular is straight-up malware and everyone should remove their apps.
They're more tightly bound than that. They're dependent on Google Display Ads. Which really makes their whole diatribe that much more pathetic.
Any media company that decided to traffic the ads themselves, from their own servers, and inline with their own content, would effectively be immune from ad blocking.
> Ditching these deeply invasive products remains a good idea
While still allowing random third party javascript to run unchecked on a parent website.
Lol, why are you commenting as if somehow allowing it to run negates the other good ideas in some way? Obviously some is better than none, and all is better than some, but each step takes more effort.
It might be correct-and-incomplete but they just have no credibility on the topic.
I know it blocks a use of your information against you (targeted ads). And any external source is a potential leak (e.g. the kinds of things that CORS is supposed to reduce).
But does an ad blocker specifically leak more, or just reduce the incentive to collect that information?
This blocks most existing tracking methods. The only thing you're not protected from is first-party tracking by the site you're actually visiting, which is impossible to fully protect against.
Incidentally, just blocking JavaScript with NoScript kills quite a lot of ads (obviously, not first-party ones if you've white-listed their JavaScript for site functionality; but I try to avoid that when there isn't real demonstrated value) without any need for an explicit ad blocker.
If that is an acceptable compromise, you could also try ditching the Internet altogether, as that not only blocks all online tracking, it also blocks a lot of fraud, misinformation and all kinds of harmful content.
Sure, images may no be present without JS lazy-loading them. Accidentaly, NoScript also fixes a lot of websites. Publishers are often paywalling posts via JS and initial HTML is served with full articles.
It looks very stretched, but the real magic happens when this data is sold in bulk. It allows recouping who is where. Your target person may or may not be in each dataset, their location isn’t known like clockwork, but that allows determining where they work, where they sleep and who they’re with. One ad is useless as a datapoint, but recouping shows reliable patterns. And remember most people on iPhone still don’t have an adblocker.
But I am glad they are pushing people toward other browsers because that is the biggest step. Once you have taken that step, installing the most popular extensions is trivial.
Guess what the highest rated extensions are?
It is better than nothing and definitely for the more "normies" advice. Let's start there and then we can get them onto adblock and other stuff.
Btw, the ArsTechnica article they link offers more advice[0]
[0] https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/06/meta-and-yandex-are...
I love Safari on macOS. I love the pinch/zoom with the tabs. I love that private browsing mode, at least seems to, keep things contained to the tab they started with. e.g. if I open facebook in a private tab then open new tab and go to facebook, it’s going to make me login.
Lots of anti-google people dislike Safari. Safari isn't the only non-google option you know.
Can you give an example of this?
And on the plus side, it’s vastly better at power efficiency, meaning I can use my laptop longer without being plugged in.
When a browser like Safari fails to adhere to those standards, sites will break ... but you can't expect developers (of most sites; I'm not talking about the top 100 or anything) to test in every possible browser ... and then change their code to accommodate them. Certainly not in ones with single-digit percentages of market share, that require their own OS to test (like Safari).
Web devs ignore Safari at their own risk, lest 100% of iPhone users be unable to use their site.
When “Safari is the new IE” was first published, they absolutely were. They’ve gotten a bit better since then, but all the same it was hilarious to see people who used to rail against IE for flaunting web standards (cough John Gruber cough) suddenly start saying that web standards were a bogus racket once Apple decided to stop keeping up with them.
Not slower? Safari or Orion.
And if you're not a fan of FireFox, Ladybird is becoming a thing in 2026
It also has a really annoying 'feature' that its update process will sometimes force you to restart the browser.
Financially, probably. Apple customers represent a disproportionate share of global consumer disposable income.
Technically, I guess Unix-like, BrowserEngineKit and WebKit (Orion uses this) help. Good question, hope someone knowledgeable chimes in!
I am a developer but have to deal with questions on this regularly from people's at my company due to the IT department being small.
I'm afraid I can't guess your reasoning.
If I’m a contractor forced to use Chrome and mobile devices, can I deduct a separate work phone?
I really hate having it my iPhone, at least maybe I can claw something back this way?
I use FF for 99% of dev, open Chrome maybe once a quarter. It’s a better browser.
Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44169115
The WP article says:
"" Millions of websites contain a string of computer code from Meta that compiles your web activity. It might capture the income you report to the government, your application for a student loan and your online shopping. ""
If I read that correctly then they are capturing all https web content you access in clear text and uploads it all to Meta? Then Meta
I thought the exploit was used to track where you visited, not the full data of each webpage.
I can only assume they're suggesting that companies like Intuit and H&R Block are sharing this data with Meta, but that seems like a huge violation of privacy and with tax data it might even be illegal.
Google still hasn’t fixed the issue of app being able to list all other installed app on your phone without requiring permission despite having been reported months ago. They didn’t even provide an answer.
I believe Google isn’t interested in Android user privacy in any way, even when it’s to their own benefit.
At this point either use iPhone, grapheneos or no phone at all.
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