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What makes comprehensible input comprehensible?

https://cij-analysis.streamlit.app
31•surprisetalk•4d ago

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joshdavham•6h ago
Oh wow! I’m surprised to see someone post my analysis haha

Happy to answer any questions here. I kept my analysis really high level for a general audience but since this is HN, we can get a bit nerdy :D

flippyhead•5h ago
I love this. I made a totally free, just for fun, tool based around learning Japanese via Youtube using the CI approach. https://seikai.tv The trick is finding content that is at the right level but that you also find interesting. Great article, thank you!
joshdavham•4h ago
Thanks for the kind words!
ragazzina•4h ago
> Word length - At least in English and French (the languages I know best), longer words are generally considered harder.

I think in a language with a lot of similar sounds or even homophones, longer words are easier. For a beginner Chinese speaker that knows both words, hearing "chē" will probably be ambiguous, but "chūzūchē" will be parsed immediately.

joshdavham•4h ago
That’s a good point.

I don’t think the ‘longer equals harder’ pattern holds for every language. I actually reached out to the head teacher at CIJ when I first made this analysis and she said the same.

EdiX•3h ago
I don't think this captures the whole situation. Much of what makes comprehensible input comprehensible, at lower levels, is presence of visual hints.
joshdavham•3h ago
That's exactly right.

Much of the beginner videos make use of visual hints like you say (images, props, etc), and none of these were taken into account in my analysis.

I do think it could be cool to do a 'visual' analysis of CI in the future where you attempt to measure how much context is present (or not) in each video and see what insights you could draw from that.

joshdavham•3h ago
Here's the source code for this analysis to those interested: https://github.com/joshdavham/cij-analysis

I will note that the transcripts (and parsing scripts) are not included in the repo. The transcripts are not my intellectual property so I can't share it (and the parsing scripts are a bit of a dumpster fire).

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