[1] https://adflegal.org/article/speech-not-violence-and-violenc...
[2] https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/national-speech-index...
[3] https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/07/why-it...
Now they want us to believe that cameras are threats of violence.
Appellate courts in the First, Third, Fifth, Seventh, Ninth, and Eleventh Circuits have all held there's a first amendment right to film police, and that law enforcement officers do not have an expectation of privacy in the performance of their duties.
We're unfortunately waiting for one of those ICE agents, on camera, to pull the trigger and kill or brutally maim someone doing nothing other than filming, or worse an innocent bystander. It doesn't seem like our political system or even high court currently have the coherence to deal with evil in less-stark terms.
(To my knowledge, there isn't a firearms proficiency requirement for ICE agents. And a basic rule of firearm safety is you don't point your gun at anything you don't eventually want to get shot.)
They won't deal with it then, either.
Source ?
(I got thrown off by this memo [2].)
[1] https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%20Government/ID25542...
[2] https://www.ice.gov/doclib/dro/family-residential/pdf/rs_sta...
In several parts of the country, doing that puts your life at immediate and substantial risk.
- B. Dolan - Film the Police [2012] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyT1buoyTnY
A. Without badges, or have badges without numbers. Toy-store style.
B. Are faceless.
C. Do not have names displayed.
D. Do not have warrants.
These were mentioned, IIRC, in an ACLU complaint which resulted in restraining orders (see [0]) though the order addressed two points not specifically related to the above.
> The first TRO bars immigration agents from stopping individuals without reasonable suspicion and from relying on four factors – alone or in combination – including apparent race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in a particular location like a bus stop, car wash, or agricultural site; or the work the person does.
> The second TRO orders DHS to provide access to counsel on weekdays, weekends, and holidays for people who are detained in B-18, the federal building in downtown Los Angeles.
IANAL, but the four points I mentioned above are beyond acceptable police behavior, and likely unconstitutional. People have a right to document both daily public police actions and ones that are beyond the pale and likely unconstitutional.
Regular police officers have badges with numbers, faces, names and warrants.
[0] https://www.aclusocal.org/en/press-releases/court-prohibits-...
Do ICE agents get free pass to ignore state laws by their federal organisation?
Source? (Either for it not having been the case before or for it being the case right now. Ideally with case citations; trying to dig deeper than vibes.)
https://johndrogerslaw.com/the-first-amendmeAVnt-and-photogr...
Classic case of ICE lying with stats.
Are any of these charges sticking? We haen't even gotten to the phase where the victims start filing civil cases for money damages.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-t...
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