So it lasted about 2k years where it was, then was removed, put in storage and damaged by moths in the museum?
metalman•6h ago
yep, the worlds oldest shirt was found in an ancient rubbish pile in eygypt, nice shirt, but obviosly thrown out from ancient wear and tear.....it NEVER rains in eygypt...or to be exact any area can expect rain once in 400 years or something ludicrous, so ya stuff just sits, and in just the right conditions lasts for millenia, so we have ancient chit chat letters sent back and forth between women that represent the earliest first person dialogs in existance
edit, on reflection there are older summerian letters sent back and forth by traders in....cloth, who had a "shop" in one city/country but the main production was in mesoptsmia proper, and if memory serves the distant trader was a woman asking for more products to sell, and again other chit chat, but both instances required exceptional conditions and the use of very durable materials, papyrus paper and dried and protected clay
cwmoore•5h ago
Great context, but in reminding me of Bob Dylan’s Rainy Day Women #12 & 35, potentially many conversations from even those most auspicious regions went unpreserved.
He was complaining to "Lord Bezos," about receiving sub-standard material.
I'll just get my coat...
goscript•5h ago
> it NEVER rains in eygypt...or to be exact any area can expect rain once in 400 years or something ludicrous,
The northern part of the country receives some rainfall in the winter. heavy winter rains occasionally cause flooding in Cairo, Ptolemaic Egypt was centered around Alexandria, which gets the most rain in the country - about 200 mm (7.87 in) annually. while that's still relatively low, it's not nearly as extreme as you make it seem.
Pileus (plis) can be found amongst older Albanians (especially on the north) to this day.
throwaway173738•6h ago
It looks like a bucket hat.
thebruce87m•1h ago
There’s a joke about Oasis in there somewhere.
accrual•20m ago
Bucket hats are pretty useful as far as hats go. Glad to see they have a long standing heritage!
daft_pink•4h ago
Just waiting for some tech bros to add ai and re-invent the bucket hat with a new private equity funded company.
p1esk•3h ago
“Designed by AI”
kinj28•2h ago
I wonder how authentic the hat must be after restoration? And how exactly restoration is done ? It seems restoration had to be funded so must be some elaborate process.
lostlogin•6h ago
metalman•6h ago
edit, on reflection there are older summerian letters sent back and forth by traders in....cloth, who had a "shop" in one city/country but the main production was in mesoptsmia proper, and if memory serves the distant trader was a woman asking for more products to sell, and again other chit chat, but both instances required exceptional conditions and the use of very durable materials, papyrus paper and dried and protected clay
cwmoore•5h ago
kibwen•5h ago
ChrisMarshallNY•5h ago
I'll just get my coat...
goscript•5h ago
The northern part of the country receives some rainfall in the winter. heavy winter rains occasionally cause flooding in Cairo, Ptolemaic Egypt was centered around Alexandria, which gets the most rain in the country - about 200 mm (7.87 in) annually. while that's still relatively low, it's not nearly as extreme as you make it seem.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Egypt#Rainfall