Non-intrusive technology which can work at home to monitor people' vitals is a game changer, there are so many applications to this. Research is at the beginning.
Indeed there are privacy issues with big providers doing this, but then this really opens up so many possibilities if done well.
Radar technology isn't some kind of forbidden magic. Can you do radar sensing with 2.4GHz? Yes, absolutely. Now, can you do it well, with an off-the-shelf Wi-Fi chipset, and get down to heartbeat monitoring? Only if the chipset was designed for it. Very few existing chipsets are. Still a new experimental thing.
For practical applications today, I would look instead at things like dedicated mmWave 24GHz radar chips instead - they're getting cheap now. For the future? If chip vendors that ship the usual 2.4GHz/5GHz MIMO router chipsets start putting the relevant features in, the idea would be worth visiting.
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And if they offer you enough money to acquire the company, you'll take it, because if not you then someone else will do it. Humanity is not in fact crying out for a better panopticon.
If you want more information about this whole thing as an engineering project, check this comment from a few years back with lots of links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22480444
I assume some places already use thermal cameras to detect people who are sweating profusely.
Using both together might be a decent way of flagging people who might otherwise slip through security.
Of course there would be many false positives, so it wouldn't be good enough on its own.
Google even ships it in some Nest displays for sleep tracking...
It's like me telling you: With using just audio I can trace your exact coordinates! ... By using an array of microphones in a room.
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> First, the researchers had seven volunteers sit in a chair at various distances of 1, 2, and 3 meters from two ESP32 microcontrollers that used Pulse-Fi to estimate the volunteers’ heart rates
Yup
Like ages ago it was going to be Intels docking station standard (WiGig). It died, companies like IgniteNet bought up all the Dell wigig chips, and used them to prototype P2P wireless radios, ultimately building out a new class of metro p2p wireless used by every major vendor. Then it became a component of 5G, mostly used for backhaul but still capable in a lot of Massive MIMO handsets. Some handsets trialling it for in home wifi. And now the chips are probably going back into your laptops/Homes to detect your biometrics.
WiFi signals can measure heart rate - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45127983 - Sept 2025 (262 comments)
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bee_rider•2h ago
Checking if your phone is attached to their router is much less signal processing!
ortusdux•2h ago