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Start all of your commands with a comma (2009)

https://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2009/commands-with-comma/
256•theblazehen•2d ago•85 comments

Hoot: Scheme on WebAssembly

https://www.spritely.institute/hoot/
26•AlexeyBrin•1h ago•2 comments

OpenCiv3: Open-source, cross-platform reimagining of Civilization III

https://openciv3.org/
706•klaussilveira•15h ago•206 comments

The Waymo World Model

https://waymo.com/blog/2026/02/the-waymo-world-model-a-new-frontier-for-autonomous-driving-simula...
969•xnx•21h ago•558 comments

Vocal Guide – belt sing without killing yourself

https://jesperordrup.github.io/vocal-guide/
69•jesperordrup•6h ago•31 comments

Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback

https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.12501
7•onurkanbkrc•47m ago•0 comments

Making geo joins faster with H3 indexes

https://floedb.ai/blog/how-we-made-geo-joins-400-faster-with-h3-indexes
135•matheusalmeida•2d ago•35 comments

Where did all the starships go?

https://www.datawrapper.de/blog/science-fiction-decline
45•speckx•4d ago•36 comments

Unseen Footage of Atari Battlezone Arcade Cabinet Production

https://arcadeblogger.com/2026/02/02/unseen-footage-of-atari-battlezone-cabinet-production/
68•videotopia•4d ago•7 comments

Welcome to the Room – A lesson in leadership by Satya Nadella

https://www.jsnover.com/blog/2026/02/01/welcome-to-the-room/
39•kaonwarb•3d ago•30 comments

ga68, the GNU Algol 68 Compiler – FOSDEM 2026 [video]

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/PEXRTN-ga68-intro/
13•matt_d•3d ago•2 comments

What Is Ruliology?

https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2026/01/what-is-ruliology/
45•helloplanets•4d ago•46 comments

Show HN: Look Ma, No Linux: Shell, App Installer, Vi, Cc on ESP32-S3 / BreezyBox

https://github.com/valdanylchuk/breezydemo
240•isitcontent•16h ago•26 comments

Monty: A minimal, secure Python interpreter written in Rust for use by AI

https://github.com/pydantic/monty
238•dmpetrov•16h ago•126 comments

Show HN: I spent 4 years building a UI design tool with only the features I use

https://vecti.com
340•vecti•18h ago•149 comments

Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

https://hackers-1995.vercel.app/
506•todsacerdoti•23h ago•248 comments

Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Technical Info

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
389•ostacke•22h ago•98 comments

Show HN: If you lose your memory, how to regain access to your computer?

https://eljojo.github.io/rememory/
304•eljojo•18h ago•188 comments

Microsoft open-sources LiteBox, a security-focused library OS

https://github.com/microsoft/litebox
361•aktau•22h ago•186 comments

An Update on Heroku

https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
428•lstoll•22h ago•284 comments

Cross-Region MSK Replication: K2K vs. MirrorMaker2

https://medium.com/lensesio/cross-region-msk-replication-a-comprehensive-performance-comparison-o...
3•andmarios•4d ago•1 comments

PC Floppy Copy Protection: Vault Prolok

https://martypc.blogspot.com/2024/09/pc-floppy-copy-protection-vault-prolok.html
71•kmm•5d ago•10 comments

Was Benoit Mandelbrot a hedgehog or a fox?

https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.01122
23•bikenaga•3d ago•11 comments

Dark Alley Mathematics

https://blog.szczepan.org/blog/three-points/
96•quibono•4d ago•22 comments

The AI boom is causing shortages everywhere else

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/02/07/ai-spending-economy-shortages/
26•1vuio0pswjnm7•2h ago•16 comments

How to effectively write quality code with AI

https://heidenstedt.org/posts/2026/how-to-effectively-write-quality-code-with-ai/
271•i5heu•18h ago•219 comments

Delimited Continuations vs. Lwt for Threads

https://mirageos.org/blog/delimcc-vs-lwt
34•romes•4d ago•3 comments

I now assume that all ads on Apple news are scams

https://kirkville.com/i-now-assume-that-all-ads-on-apple-news-are-scams/
1079•cdrnsf•1d ago•461 comments

Introducing the Developer Knowledge API and MCP Server

https://developers.googleblog.com/introducing-the-developer-knowledge-api-and-mcp-server/
64•gfortaine•13h ago•30 comments

Understanding Neural Network, Visually

https://visualrambling.space/neural-network/
306•surprisetalk•3d ago•44 comments
Open in hackernews

In 1776, Thomas Paine made the best case for fighting kings −and being skeptical

https://theconversation.com/in-1776-thomas-paine-made-the-best-case-for-fighting-kings-and-for-being-skeptical-266448
147•rntn•3mo ago

Comments

rectang•3mo ago
It is tempting, given the success that kingly political approaches have seen of late, to adopt those strategies: to fight "your tyrant" with "my tyrant", and to fight your untruth with my untruth, eschewing skepticism. What if the Constitution, as interpreted by the current SCOTUS, really is a suicide pact?

We can only hope that Paine's approach will win out instead.

jauntywundrkind•3mo ago
That'd be a vaguely interesting point, if I—searching my heart—I could find any evidence of this going both way.

Congress has never folded power to a president like this before. The Supreme Court has never faced such backlash from district courts (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/11/us/politics/judicial-cris...). Scientists & researchers have never been up in arms about us health policy or what is being done. Colleges and universities have never been policed by a president, confronted with loyalty pacts.

Avicebron•3mo ago
The economic policies from the 70s until nowish were new as well
rectang•3mo ago
To cite one example: aggressive gerrymandering has required a response in the form of California Prop 50. I'm hoping that we can all find our way to competitive districts together, rather than permanently sorting into districts that are the province of one party or another, eliminating free elections in practice.

But thanks to SCOTUS interpreting any amount of political gerrymandering as permissible, we may have in fact fallen into an irreparable hole in the US Constitution.

Even if some of us are disinclined towards tyranny, we may be faced with a choice: accept that we are shunted towards it by forces beyond our control, or roll over and accept tyrannical rule by others. I continue to hope that it will not come to that and that we can fight our way out of this situation using Paine's methods.

BrenBarn•3mo ago
I think there are multiple irreparable holes in the US Constitution. That doesn't mean tyranny is inevitable, though, it just means we need to start fresh (which is what they did when they came up with the Constitution anyway).
rectang•3mo ago
Amending the Constitution to fix such holes is impractical when it would require the approval of states whose hold on perpetual minority rule would be threatened.

So then we're looking at a constitutional convention. Can you imagine our current crop of politicians cooperating to negotiate something which improves on the current Constitution? I'd expect a prisoner's dilemma with a defect-defect outcome and the winner taking all of the diminished spoils.

I think we're stuck with what we've got and we have to hope that enough voters are persuadable, allowing us to emerge from the hole.

BrenBarn•3mo ago
If we could persuade enough voters to get out of the hole, why can't we persuade enough to fix the hole (and the other holes)?
thom•3mo ago
The falcon listens credulously to far too many falconers.
tuveson•3mo ago
One funny fact about the “No Kings” protests held abroad is that they were called “No Tyants” so as to not be interpreted as anti-monarchist.
izzydata•3mo ago
I wouldn't mind seeing the British monarchy get abolished as well. It's far outlived any purpose it may have had. Even without them actually participating in government they are basically just celebrities living off the social welfare of the people.
vunderba•3mo ago
On a marginally positive note, at least it is largely a ceremonial position and the real power lies with the prime minister/cabinet/parliament.
aurareturn•3mo ago
They project soft power and attract tourists. I would bet that they’re actually a positive on UK’s economy and well being.
exasperaited•3mo ago
They also knocked 15-20 percentage points off our Trump tariffs because he's so easily played; he barely even left the castle grounds this time.
ProjectArcturis•3mo ago
At this point the British royals are basically tourist attractions. They probably generate more revenue than they consume.
exasperaited•3mo ago
They definitely do, but a lot of this admittedly is to do with the ability they have to raise revenue on things they privately own; only a handful of Royals are on what is called the Civil List (direct payment from government for their jobs, which are not inconsiderable.)
Cpoll•3mo ago
I intended to object, but apparently the royals cost the government ~500MM GBP/year. Which is a lot, but less than 5% of their tourism industry, so it seems possible.
jopsen•3mo ago
How much of that budget is maintenance of very very old buildings?
relaxing•3mo ago
Tourists would also come to see their remains and preserved trappings, as they do in every other country with a former monarchy.
BoxOfRain•3mo ago
I don't like hereditary privilege at all, but the enormous constitutional headache removing the monarchy would cause might well outweight the practical benefits of doing away with it.
Lio•3mo ago
Are you British?

Personally, I like having a figurehead head of state that is subject to a directly elected Parliament.

The King may have cerimonital power but he can never exercise it. As was proved in the Glorious Revolution we can remove our head of state anytime we like.

I would much rather see the House of Lords reformed than the monarchy ended.

rwmj•3mo ago
I am British. I think QE2 made a good job out of this cursed tradition. Charles is a crank, but a crank that I happen to agree with, so fine. But I suspect things are going to go off the rails with his failson William.

> I would much rather see the House of Lords reformed than the monarchy ended.

I'd be very careful about that one. Making it elected would be a terrible idea. There are some reforms that are possible, but they'd need to be very narrow (for example, limiting the size, and limiting tenure).

terminalshort•3mo ago
What power does the king of England have to make things go off the rails?
rwmj•3mo ago
He doesn't have power in that sense, but if people lose "faith" in the aura of the monarchy then things could go south quickly.
tim333•3mo ago
Technically he's the head of the armed forces, and also can dissolve the government.

In practice with a Hitler type he could dissolve the government and there'd be new elections. I guess if the people voted the same guy back that might be the end of it but it's a bit of a failsafe to this kind of thing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42943973

exasperaited•3mo ago
> I think QE2 made a good job out of this cursed tradition.

Right. So many of us are like this -- more Elizabethists than Royalists.

devilbunny•3mo ago
American and curious: why do you think William is a fail? Because Charles looked that way to us.
rwmj•3mo ago
I don't disagree!
tim333•3mo ago
Brit here - I think William is fine. I had doubts about Charles but he's doing ok. The worry is you get someone like the king of Thailand - https://www.tattoodo.com/articles/thailands-king-maha-vajira... Or MBS.
blibble•3mo ago
as a brit it's hard to look over the pond and see that as an improvement
exasperaited•3mo ago
> I wouldn't mind seeing the British monarchy get abolished as well.

Strongly suggest the USA leaves tinkering with other countries' political systems alone for at least a generation. No standing.

The British are actually quite conflicted about the monarchy.

It tends to be bound up in what a lot of people used to observe was the distinction between Royalism and Queenism (or Elizabethism specifically).

We don't much like the institution in the same way (only narrow approval overall), but we pretty much loved the Queen as close to unconditionally as we love anyone (she's like one or two rungs down from Judi Dench and the late Terry Wogan), and would not have wanted to see it go in her lifetime because it would just have been weird.

Now, not so much. Charles has yet to earn that kind of affection. Though surprisingly he is getting there, and Camilla's popularity (always a very serious problem for the monarchy) is genuinely surprising because she turns out to be a) really a friendly, kind person and b) genuinely liked by her step-family.

redwall_hp•3mo ago
It's the other way around: they're wealthy holders of land, like the rest of the dukes and such, who control large chunks of the land in the UK and own large businesses. The UK benefits from the royal family allowing the use of their land, including historic buildings, at a relatively low cost.

Another example: the Duke of Westminster is worth $12B and owns a large chunk of London outright, including a ton of large, notable buildings. (Also, I think, the Twinings tea company.)

There's the Crown Estate, which is controlled by the crown, but the family also owns the Duchy of Cornwall (45K acres) and the Duchy of Lancaster (45K acres), as well as numerous private holdings that are less visible. And this is predominantly highly developed city space.

BrenBarn•3mo ago
> The UK benefits from the royal family allowing the use of their land, including historic buildings, at a relatively low cost.

How does the UK benefit from the royal family allowing this, rather than just having a non-monarchist government that does the same thing?

KaiserPro•3mo ago
Because it would have been sold off by a previous government. (see virtually every other money making asset.)
permo-w•3mo ago
see any national park?
KaiserPro•3mo ago
How much of the UKs national parks are publicly owned?

(dartmoor is owned partly by the crown)

BrenBarn•3mo ago
But this seems like the fallacy of comparing a benevolent and somewhat reasonable monarchy to a malicious or foolish non-monarchist government. Any system can wind up with stupid people doing stupid things. The difference is if you get one stupid person in as king they could sell everything off or cause who knows what damage, whereas with a more diffuse government one person can't do as much harm. (The current situation in the US also shows how it's important to keep the power diffused rather than centralized in one person.)
KaiserPro•3mo ago
> if you get one stupid person in as king they could sell everything off

Thats the point, its not trivial to sell it off, because it was set up to counteract a fooling king in exchange for a stipend.

This system was explicitly designed to take an asset from the crown and place it in trust so that the king could get a steady income, ostensibly from assets that had unpredictable income.

Thus the crown estate was born, which has a bunch of rules, most notably about taking on debt.

jopsen•3mo ago
Does doing away with the monarchy also mean confiscating their property?
relaxing•3mo ago
Yes obviously, along with their heads.
BrenBarn•3mo ago
If not then it's still the same question: how does the UK benefit from having the royal family allowing this rather than just some other entity that owns the land and rents it out at low cost? Why does that entity need to be a monarchy?
jfengel•3mo ago
Mostly: tourism. The royal family is widely thought to bring in a lot more than it costs.

Also, they provide a lot of face-time for the government. They show up at a lot of events, the kind of thing for which you might hire a celebrity to give it a sense of occasion. The actual dollar value of that is hard to estimate, and it's less valuable than the tourism, but the fact that people still want it suggests that it's providing something of value.

asacrowflies•3mo ago
If I violently conquer and area kill everyone who objects will you also defend my "property rights" ? It's all my land after all. Lol
rootusrootus•3mo ago
The older I get the more I appreciate the value of a shared mythology. In some cases that is religion. Or a creed, as it was for a long time in America. But I think it is very valuable to have it for a healthy functioning society. It feels like we have lost it in America, which does not make me optimistic for the future.

I wonder if the monarchy serves that role for the UK. Might be better to keep it.

KaiserPro•3mo ago
I was a fairly ardent anti-monarchist. The problem is, I had put my faith in politicians to unite the UK. The problem is, there isn't much mileage in uniting the UK at the moment, or competence in government.

The only real way that the monarchy can survive is if the kingdom stays united.

Also, president boris, stamer or farage is just a humiliation I can't really cope with.

rootusrootus•3mo ago
> Also, president boris, stamer or farage is just a humiliation I can't really cope with.

I definitely appreciate the idea that if you lose confidence in the PM you can fire them pretty quickly. Being stuck with a crappy president for four long years kinda sucks.

exasperaited•3mo ago
> Also, president boris, stamer or farage is just a humiliation I can't really cope with.

I always tell people I don't actually want to risk an elected presidency until Jeremy Clarkson is too old to run for it.

tim333•3mo ago
I think prez Jezza would be quite entertaining.
Lio•3mo ago
That's entirely the problem.
jopsen•3mo ago
> Also, president boris, stamer or farage is just a humiliation I can't really cope with.

The British royal family does get some bad press from time to time, but the recent string of British PMs really does serve to remind us all that the bar is really low :)

thrance•3mo ago
The monarchy is demonstrably powerless and unwilling to fight the destruction of UK democracy. Right-wing populism has infiltrated all sides of the political landscape there, and with it all the self-destructing ideas we have come to love: defunding of all public services, increase in policing and control, destruction of worker protections, tax cuts for the rich, tax increase for the poor, etc.

I live in France, our common mythology, our Roman National as it is called here, is that we beheaded our king. Yet, the most authoritarian people you know will still claim the legacy of our revolution, of De Gaulle and Jeanne d'Arc. Even worse, this mythology is poised as under threat by a made-up out-group and used to seed reactionary fear and divisiveness amidst our nation.

tim333•3mo ago
I'm not sure the public being able to vote for Farage or whoever is undemocratic.
jopsen•3mo ago
I view the money we pay the Danish royal family as the cost of not having a bloody revolution some 150-200 years ago.

When you consider how many people and how much wealth was destroyed during/following revolutions like the French or Russian, and the compound interest of that wealth over 150 years, the pennies we pay to the royals todays is probably cheap.

Just saying, if you went back in time and opted for a revolution instead of a constitutional monarchy, you'd probably be poorer today -- compound growth over 150 years is no joke.

tim333•3mo ago
Brit here. I used to think of them as celebrities who entertain the tourists but there's a Chesterton's fence thing where you shouldn't abolish them without understanding their deterrent effect to dictators taking over. See the other European countries who abolished their monarchies and got Stalin, Putin, Hitler, Mussolini, Napoleon and so on.
Spivak•3mo ago
I think their "branding" is misguided because I would feel literally on top of the world if the people who hated me accused me of being queen. Absolutely nothing in the world would be more effective and getting me to continue down that path. I would probably start wearing a crown and trade my office for a throne room.

The problem with demonizing people is that demons are badass and powerful.

olooney•3mo ago
Paine kind of hit the nail on the head with this one:

> "The law is king!"

The 2024 Nobel prize in economics[1] was awarded to a team of three who investigated what causes a nation to prosper and identified "rule of law" as an essential ingredient[2].

[1]: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/2024/pre...

[2]: https://news.mit.edu/2024/mit-economists-daron-acemoglu-simo...

readthenotes1•3mo ago
So you get a Nobel prize for proving Benjamin Franklin right (who was rephrasing a more ancient saying).

Charlie Munger recalled it in 2003 as “Where there is no bread, there is no law; where there is no law, there is no bread.”

It's going to be some easy picking if more figure that out ...

Yoric•3mo ago
Now remember that there's an entire current in Silicon Valley that advocates against rule of law, at least when applied to them. Oh, and a felon taking some liberties with law sitting at the White House.

Yeah, I think reminding people that you don't get prosperity without rule of law is a good idea.

BrenBarn•3mo ago
Not a good enough idea, apparently, given that what you said in the first paragraph is happening.
ecocentrik•3mo ago
Nice slogan but right now in America, money is king and the law is bent to accommodate the wills of rich lawless men.
vanviegen•3mo ago
Which is probably the point GP and OP are trying to make.
bix6•3mo ago
They aren’t bending the law, they’re outright breaking it. The question is whether we’ll demand enforcement or not. So far there has not been sufficient outrage to demand true enforcement.
jopsen•3mo ago
Yeah,.critical reporters fall out of windows in Manhattan all the time.

</sarcasm>

That's not to say that America doesn't have problems. That the problems aren't unique.

But there has always been problems, and they have always been new.

Over time America and the rest of the western world, will adapt and move on to new problems :)

simpaticoder•3mo ago
Good comment. There is a trade-off between principle and loyalty, and "rule of law" puts the dial hard over to "principle". The mechanism behind its success is that it puts a society solidly into the "cooperate" Nash equilibrium. (Loyalty, by contrast, puts a society solidly into the "defect" equilibrium). I suspect that Christianity, taken broadly, also pushes the dial hard over to "principle". First, it "undermines" temporal loyalty by stressing loyalty to God. Second it installs a panopticon within the believers mind that guards access to eternal bliss. Third it provides a non-commercial venue for civic life (the church on Sunday) where "stink eye" becomes a meaningful enforcement mechanism of norms. I fear that the late 20th century focus entirely on the (real and very serious) error-modes of these mechanisms to the exclusion of understanding of their value. This throws the baby out with the bathwater. The secular reaction is to pass an ever-increasing and ever more comprehensive set of laws in a vain attempt to replace the loss of norms. When that finally fails (as it inevitably must) you decay into the "defect" Nash equilibrium, put the dial back over to loyalty over principle, abandon the fundamental innovation of the Enlightenment, and your civilization falls.
yks•3mo ago
Blame “secular reaction” all you want, but with the New Apostolic Reformation the temporal loyalty becomes a pre-requisite to the loyalty to God
guelo•3mo ago
Only Christianity? none of the other religions? It's funny pushing religion on a Thomas Payne post since he rejected religion as corrupt and irrational.
simpaticoder•3mo ago
The experiment has only been run once, and it was mostly a white, Christian project. Payne's personal values doesn't change the facts of the experiment. If we could go back in time and witness the invention of the Enlightenment, political Liberalism, and Industrialization for other (race, religion) pairs, I'd love to do it. Maybe we can, as a proxy, look across the world at how different (race, religion) pairs have adopted liberal values to see if there are any patterns.
mieses•3mo ago
Paine can claim to reject anything he wants. He's still a goldfish swimming in Christian water.
andrewflnr•3mo ago
It's weird, then, how it was Christians who rallied behind the wannabe king who made trampling on both norms and principles his whole brand.
simpaticoder•3mo ago
It is indeed weird, and much ink has been spilled on the subject. Luckily I'm not answerable for them. I have no good answers and my speculation on the matter tends to be rather...dark.
godelski•3mo ago
This is only first order accurate and the failure comes from higher order effects.

In your model you need the religious leaders to be aware of the ruse but still be benevolent actors. This is problematic because it makes selecting leaders from within the religion difficult (especially at lower ranks). By waiting to tell them the game many followers are likely to revolt as they've been told their entire lives and core beliefs are a lie. That risks collapsing the system. By pulling leaders from outside the faith you garner distrust from followers (maybe this could work if those members can be said to directly come from heaven rather, but that's difficult to pull off). By selecting from the followers and not revealing the ruse your system has no self realigning mechanism. In all instances you suffer from the effects of a game of telephone ("Chinese whispers"), but probably the most in the last case.

In all situations you are still vulnerable to the rise of fanatics. True believers of any philosophy can be dangerous, and the more power they possess (such as leadership) the more danger they possess. With competing religions you justify division between true believers. Even if the leaders of competing are not, the true believers will create that division and organize. A small population is all that is needed in order to upset the system.

I think you're right that there is utility to many aspects of religion (not just Christianity) but holy wars are still bloody wars. It's important to realize that these features can be met through other beliefs. Some of the greatest features are community, as organized religion forces common ground and people that have differing opinions in disjoint domains (e.g. shared religion, different politics) are forced to interact, which leads to lower tribalism (though not sub-tribes).

Maybe religion is a local optima, but it would be naïve to discount its flaws. By its nature it is dividing, even if at the same time it is unifying. Local and global structures need not be identical.

Kenji•3mo ago
Next up: Fight the political class and the bureaucrats. Enlightenment step by step.
vunderba•3mo ago
> Paine labels kingship "the most prosperous invention the Devil ever set on foot for the promotion of idolatry"

Given that this kind of deference to a perceived authority (which manifests in hero worship, tribalism, influencers, religion, celebrity veneration, sports figures, etc) seems to be built into the very genetic fabric of 99% of the general populace I despair at ever seeing it end.

People simply can't wait to anoint their own personal king (be it Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, MrBeast, etc.)

technothrasher•3mo ago
I wonder if Paine was aware of the irony in that quote by his indirect reference to the ultimate invented king.
rootusrootus•3mo ago
> People simply can't wait to anoint their own personal king

You really think there are only 1% of us that have no desire at all for any sort of king? I cannot think of a single person deserving of that role, cannot imagine what it would take for me to change my mind. I very much value our systems of government, and I do not ever want any one person to have too much control over them.

Barrin92•3mo ago
I don't think it's necessary to take the OP literally, but directionally it's correct. Looking at American society, the Trumps, Kardashians, Clintons, Roosevelts, Kennedys ... for a country that's so proudly republican, how many of their presidents and elites have been blood related? Might add Jesus to the list metaphorically

People Americans hoist into power (and many other countries do) often look like a poor man's replacement for a monarch. How many people in any country do actually lay claim to their own values and conscience? How many are genuinely emancipated and govern themselves?

In particular in this day and age where most of the wannabe kings are so obviously idiotic it's telling how eager people still are to subject themselves, sometimes in, as David Bentley Hart dubbed it crypto-erotic fashion, almost sadomasochistic and fully aware how incapable the demagogues are.

sojournerc•3mo ago
Plato spoke of a philosopher King more than 2000 years ago. I think we can do better. At the very least, I don't seek political leadership in a personality cult. It doesn't have to be this way
deepsquirrelnet•3mo ago
> “What would America’s Founding Fathers think if they were alive today?”

> For Cross, it is pointless to speculate about the present-day views of men who could not have imagined cotton candy, let alone the machine that makes it.

Some things, like “taxation without representation” seem to be timeless. You can call it irony or perhaps in some cases, a spade is still just a spade.

DangitBobby•3mo ago
Pretty sure they could have imagined cotton candy, anyway. There's nothing special about modern people that makes them more capable of comprehending new technology, it's just a matter of exposure.
godelski•3mo ago

  >> men who could not have imagined cotton candy
It's a funny example since it looks like cotton candy might have been around in their time [0]. Machines spun cotton candy came about much later but I'm not overly suspicious of the claims in [0] as meringue[1] certainly existed in their lifetimes and the process isn't dissimilar. I'm certain these men could understand "like meringue, but with sugar!" And "a machine that spins fast!" These would not be great leaps for people at this time. It seems to make them out to be idiots rather than not being prophetic (presumably the intended meaning)

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20150701005917/http://www.cotton...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meringue

Der_Einzige•3mo ago
Thomas Paine is one strand of an ideological opposition to authoritarianism that doesn't devolve into lunacy (unlike modern "libertarianism", communism, etc). He was a good man in a time of bad men. One of the few founding fathers who was genuinely against slavery and supported real egalitarianism to the point of being ostracized for it. He was an honest to god liberal with a capital L, and he, unlike Thomas Jefferson, should be the firebrand representation of the modern democratic party.

He believed in a universal basic income (Agrarian Justice), free trade, a land value tax. He was a georgist before Henry George. To this day, I look at Georgism as the only meaningful pro-market and good-for-buisness but unapologeticly left-wing movement we have.

Thomas Paine should be regarded as our best and most read founding fathers and liberal thinkers. He's often a footnote, or forgotten about. Just like Andrew Yang, Henry George, Smedly Butler, Benjamin Tucker, Lysander Spooner, Sinclair Lewis, Upton Sinclair etc.

Instead our modern "anti-authoritarian" movement, or whatever passes for it, claims ideologically descent and active influence from the likes of charlatans and defenders of authoritarianism like Karl Marx, Hegel, Freud, Foucault, Kant, Nietzsche, etc.

Remember Thomas Paine.

KaiserPro•3mo ago
> that doesn't devolve into lunacy

I mean he did literally dissolve into lunacy. He also was shunned for his "blasphemous" views on the role of the church. He died in penury, and largely in disgrace.

But, he should be read more, the rights of man is surprisingly readable, especially given the time and subject matter.

hax0ron3•3mo ago
I question Thomas Paine's liberal cred given that he supported confiscation of Loyalists' properties.
Ray20•3mo ago
> He believed in a universal basic income (Agrarian Justice)

I am, of course, only superficially familiar with his works, but calling what Paine proposed a basic income is extremely stupid.

This is a trivial concept of viewing territories as a natural resource, specifically, land, not productive assets in general. With the logic that land is not a product of human activity, and therefore, by acquiring land as "ownership", a person obtains it at the expense of everyone else, and it's logical to force them to compensate for this.

And it certainly can't be called a basic income if you look at the proposed tax burden. It's simply another form of tax redistribution, and in almost every respect, more capitalist compared to the tax distribution systems of that time, (and certainly of today).

mattgreenrocks•3mo ago
It’s not just “kings,” its concentration of power in all spheres of life.

The fact that this point is largely lost on the audience of this site just shows how bad things have gotten.

People who want to amass power for its own sake need self-reinforcing systems that restrain them.

MichaelZuo•3mo ago
This seems circular.

It’s impossible to successfully restrain another more powerful than you, by definition, as an individual.

And to do so as a group introduces the whole mess of politiking and intra-group dynamics that generates any significant power concentration in the first place.

guelo•3mo ago
No, billionaires should not be the countervailing power, that just turns into oligarchy. The innovation of America is that We the people, our laws and institutions are. The problem is ideological billionaires have been buying up all the propaganda outlets hobling "we the people"'s power.
MichaelZuo•3mo ago
How does this relate to my comment?

It seems like it’s responding to something else.

ekaryotic•3mo ago
there are physical laws that cannot be broken, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. therefore attempting to restrain a higher power only ends in self restraint. have you considered that the best approach is to go on strike, depriving the higher power of something of yours, whether that be labour, or progeny.
gigatree•3mo ago
And ironically, the founding fathers did exactly that. The colonies were only started having land stolen and having their property and work taxed shortly after the formation of the federal government.
classified•3mo ago
> this point is largely lost on the audience of this site

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

truCoat•3mo ago
Thomas Paine's church, 19th psalm:

The spacious firmament on high,

With all the blue etherial sky,

And spangled heavens, a shining frame,

Their great original proclaim.

The unwearied sun, from day to day,

Does his Creator’s power display,

And publishes to every land

The work of an Almighty hand.

Soon as the evening shades prevail,

The moon takes up the wondrous tale,

And nightly to the list’ning earth

Repeats the story of her birth;

Whilst all the stars that round her burn,

And all the planets, in their turn,

Confirm the tidings as they roll,

And spread the truth from pole to pole.

What though in solemn silence all

Move round this dark terrestrial ball

What though no real voice, nor sound,

Amidst their radiant orbs be found,

In reason’s ear they all rejoice,

And utter forth a glorious voice,

Forever singing as they shine,

THE HAND THAT MADE US IS DIVINE.

FrustratedMonky•3mo ago
Why would an article about Thomas Paine be flagged?

Can we not even talk about the most basic history now? Regular old history from text books is now to controversial? No longer true?

What's next? Can't talk about electromagnetism, because some people think magnets are magic?