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Thieves steal crown jewels in 4 minutes from Louvre Museum

https://apnews.com/article/france-louvre-museum-robbery-a3687f330a43e0aaff68c732c4b2585b
85•malshe•2h ago

Comments

leipert•2h ago
Crazy how simple and efficient these heists are in their execution. All the heist movies are way too complex and clever. It‘s just smash and run.

Compare also this robbery from 2019 in Dresden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Green_Vault_burglary

lukan•32m ago
If they would be efficient, they would not have been caught.

(But maybe they were caught because they were careless afterwards? Selling stolen art is not risk free either)

Waterluvian•1h ago
> It also collides with a deeper tension the Louvre has struggled to resolve: swelling crowds and stretched staff. The museum delayed opening during a June staff walkout over overcrowding and chronic understaffing.

Raise ticket prices until you can afford more staff or don’t need more staff?

malshe•1h ago
I don't know how easy it is to increase prices in France but in some places they sell tickets in advance and there are only a limited number of them. Something like movie theaters.
hdgvhicv•1h ago
In which case visitor numbers won’t swell
thrance•56m ago
It's already like that, and it sucks. I remember a time when you could spontaneously decide "I'm going to the museum today!" then go there, wait a bit in line and get in. Now you have to book it weeks in advance, then get in line anyway, or show up without a reservation and be told the museum is full.
pinkmuffinere•40m ago
Sure, it does suck. But things change, and this is one of those things. The present solution has the Louvre closing without warning because they are short staffed, and that will only become a more frequent problem if they can't find some solution. Would you rather live in a world where you have to plan your visit to the Louvre, or where the Louvre will be randomly closed 5% of the time?
kakacik•37m ago
The beauty of not being the center of the universe, or having a passion that almost nobody else has. When it comes to appreciating say the art, I see no issue there.

Your right ends where other's same rights begin and all that.

paul7986•6m ago
oh interesting we have tickets we secured in Sept for December. Sounds like there's a chance we wont get in...
gloryjulio•1h ago
Exactly. Japan has been raising prices to help to curb the crowded tourism. Such a simple supply/demand solution
tiagod•50m ago
Keep it up, and you ensure only foreigners and rich people will be able to visit important or desirable things in your own country. I live in Lisbon, and see this happening all the time.
gloryjulio•41m ago
It's tourists tax for the foreigners, it's not for the locals. Maybe Lisbon should consider charge the foreigners to help fund the locals too?
jgrahamc•8m ago
It's pretty common for museums here (in Lisbon/Portugal) to offer discounted entry to residents. I was just a the MAAT (for example) and I asked for and got the resident discount.

And there's the scheme which allows residents 52 museum entries per year for free: https://www.museusemonumentos.pt/pt/noticia-com/novo-regime-...

wahnfrieden•1h ago
The Louvre is a national museum. Access by lottery with affordable ticketing would be more democratic than access by riches over others by pricing out working class visitors.
Waterluvian•1h ago
I agree. But not at the cost of the working class workers.
catlikesshrimp•1h ago
I don't know about the Louvre, but national amenities usual charge more to tourists. You can rise tourist fares as much as needed. They aren't poor nationals, and it's their number which is causing problems.
littlestymaar•38m ago
I'm not sure they can legally charge more for other European citizens than French citizens though.
Archelaos•53m ago
From the Web-site of the Louvre:

  Admission is free for the following visitors:
  
  Under 18s
  Proof of ID required.
  
  Under 26 year-old residents of the European Economic Area (EU, Norway, Iceland, and Liechtenstein)
  Proof of ID and residency required.

  All visitors
  On the first Friday of the month after 6 p.m. (except in July and August)
(Source: https://www.louvre.fr/en/visit/hours-admission)
datadrivenangel•50m ago
Just do the classic developing country thing and charge non-french people significantly more. 2x the price if you live outside paris, 5x the price if you live outside of France, and 20x the price if you live outside the EU.
orra•46m ago
Charging EU citizens more than French citizens would be illegal discrimination under EU law. (It might be legal to charge local Parisians less.)

For example see https://brusselssignal.eu/2024/12/ec-demands-end-to-portugal...

netsharc•27m ago
I wonder if the Paris city hall can do a rebate program of "Dear Paris residents, mail in your ticket stub and we'll give you a partial refund" - this is a first draft of an idea, it's flawed because it would lead to opportunistic Parisians asking tourists for their ticket stubs, and then telling the city hall that they visited the Louvre 30 times last month.
Theodores•12m ago
The UK's Natural History Museum is quite instructive. No staff anywhere apart from where money gets taken for food and souvenirs. Free entry to hordes and hordes of children with parents and grandparents in tow.

So how do they manage it?

There is ticket booking, which is done in advance or else there is a queue. Once in, you are just following the same walk as everyone else to see the dinosaurs - what else?!? After the dinosaurs have been seen people can tire themselves out seeing some of the rest of the museum, but most don't see a lot else and head for the gift shop before going home.

At the Louvre they have the slight problem that the hordes are there to see that one painting, the one that isn't exactly massive. Everyone knows exactly what it looks like before taking the pilgrimage. Really they should just get rid of it and put it in on a regional tour indefinitely, so as to share the tourist money elsewhere.

JumpCrisscross•5m ago
> Access by lottery with affordable ticketing would be more democratic than access by riches over others by pricing out working class visitors

Do both. Lottery tickets the day of. Advance-rate tickets at a premium price. Mix and match with a non-EU premium for both.

blackoil•31m ago
Or create a separate museum for Monalisa and few top exhibits for tourists interested only in them.
marci•12m ago
It’s already the case.
bigstrat2003•5m ago
When I visited the Louvre it was absolutely wild to me how many people were just there for the Mona Lisa. I took a look at it in person because of course I did, but I don't think it was anywhere close to the most interesting piece the museum has on display (I preferred the classical sculptures), nor even the best painting. It seems like such a waste for people to fawn over that one painting and pretty much ignore all the other masterpieces you can see there.
sfpotter•1h ago
Flambeau at it again...
card_zero•12m ago
I'm pleased that there are still jewel thieves in the 21st century, perhaps even international jewel thieves, but I have misgivings about the reality. What if they're funding something unpleasant? And did they have to take so many jewels? I appreciate that they're not running a charity, but they could have left some for future jewel thieves.
karel-3d•1h ago
I don't want to say it's related - but the juxtaposition of this robbery and French current political situation is kind of funny.
lolive•53m ago
Wait for the ultrarich to offer a pile of money to improve the museum security. [in exchange of a few special exhibitions organized for/by them. #winWin]
Foobar8568•31m ago
There are already such exhibitions, when I went there, it was related to dress from designer, although gorgeous to see them in the middle of historical rooms, sometimes I wondered if there were from the era.
netsharc•23m ago
When the Notre Dame burned down, it became a competition between the billionaires who was going to be the bigger donor.

I think at the rebuilt cathedral, there's a plaque honoring the owners of Louis Vuitton, and I don't know who else...

kamikazeturtles•1h ago
What are the economics of stealing historical jewelry?

Their size is probably big enough that any collector could distinguish them from any random jewels.

Who is there to sell to? The best bet is to store it away then let your great grandkids sell it to some Asian billionaire in the future when Europe and Europol no longer have any power and influence.

JKCalhoun•1h ago
Pretty sure there is an underground market for billionaires. I don't doubt they have their private collections that only others in the fold get to view. Bragging rights for the rich and famous?

But also, once a thing is stolen, the market for forgeries of said object explodes. I also may have seen too many mysteries on television though.

rixed•1h ago
It's explained in the article.
Fwirt•1h ago
Sadly the article alludes to the probable destiny of these pieces: being broken down for melt value. The big stones will get recut to hide where they came from. If the thieves are “smart” it’s likely these will never be seen again in their current form. It just so happens that the Crown Jewels pack a lot of gold and precious stones into a convenient and easy-to-steal package. That the historical and cultural value of these far outweighs the material value is of zero concern to thieves looking to make a quick buck.
YZF•1h ago
In Egypt the historical gold bracelet was just melted for its gold value:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1kw8dwy4dro

Depending on what exactly is this you can find someone to refinish the stones and melt and precious metals. Possibly the stones are not recognizable anyways when taken off. Other than that I assume there is an underground market for these sorts of goods. These thieves seem sophisticated enough to have access to someone who will take this.

Sad.

lukasschwab•58m ago
Large gems can be broken up and recut for sale. Destroys value (certainly the cultural value) but renders them salable.
hexbin010•42m ago
FTA:

> Recovery may prove difficult. “It’s unlikely these jewels will ever be seen again,” said Tobias Kormind, managing director of 77 Diamonds. “Professional crews often break down and re-cut large, recognizable stones to evade detection, effectively erasing their provenance.”

buildsjets•40m ago
I’m sure many Russian oligarchs would be eager buyers. Especially the top Russian oligarch.
russfink•21m ago
Ransom? Or is that too risky?
temperceve•55m ago
I am really curious how much these guys can expect to get when this is all done. 10s of millions? 100s ?
jacquesm•36m ago
Gold is up, it's unfortunately that simple. If these aren't found very quickly they'll be melted because there is no way they can be fenced as they are. Fuck these thieves.
haunter•35m ago
They are probably not selling on the black market but it was an order from a private collector
tempestn•34m ago
I would guess not 100s. The artifacts are priceless in their original form, but most likely in order to sell them they will need to re-cut the stones and melt down the precious metals.
jsheard•30m ago
Unless the artifacts were stolen-to-order for a client who wants them as-is. It happens, paintings get stolen and it's not like those can be melted down.
russfink•22m ago
Or stolen for ransom. That might fetch the largest payout of all.
araes•48m ago
None of these stories seem to actually have the items stolen. Most keep implying it was the three diamonds: Regent, Sancy, and Hortensia.

However, Sky News has an actual list. [1]

[1] https://news.sky.com/story/louvre-museum-in-paris-closed-aft...

Stolen and not retrieved

  • Tiara from the set of Queen Marie-Amelie and Queen Hortense (img in article)[1]
  • Necklace from the sapphire set of Queen Marie-Amelie and Queen Hortense (img in article)[1]
  • Earring, from the pair belonging to the sapphire set of Queen Marie-Amelie and Queen Hortense (img in article)[1]
  • Emerald necklace from the Empress Marie Louise set (img in article)[1]
  • Pair of emerald earrings from the Empress Marie Louise set (img in article)[1]
  • Brooch known as the "reliquary brooch" (img)[2]
  • Tiara of Empress Eugenie (also referred to as a "diadem") (img)[3]
  • Large corsage bow brooch of Empress Eugenie. (img in article)[1]
Stolen and found outside, broken

  • Crown of Napoleon III's wife, Empress Eugenie (img)[4]
[2] https://thefrenchjewelrypost.com/content/uploads/2016/09/san...

[3] https://thefrenchjewelrypost.com/content/uploads/2016/09/san...

[4] https://thefrenchjewelrypost.com/content/uploads/2016/09/san...

hexbin010•44m ago
Trust the Brits to list in excruciating detail exactly how the French messed up!
master_crab•35m ago
As an American I am here with popcorn for the rivalry.

The first thing I did when I woke up this morning was text my English wife the BBC story and simply “The French be Frenching.”

homarp•5m ago
"Eight objects were taken, according to officials: a sapphire diadem, necklace and single earring from a matching set linked to 19th-century French queens Marie-Amélie and Hortense; an emerald necklace and earrings from the matching set of Empress Marie-Louise, Napoleon Bonaparte’s second wife; a reliquary brooch; Empress Eugénie’s diadem; and her large corsage-bow brooch — a prized 19th-century imperial ensemble."
saltyoldman•45m ago
Make stealing life threatening again.
yodon•36m ago
When it happened in London, the thief was granted a lifetime pension.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UKmonarchs/comments/1dcmb7i/fun_fac...

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