How much more problematic is it with autonomous vehicles? I could see action here just because it is a threat to the property of large corporations, though.
The contractors aren’t going to buy it unless they’re forced to use it and can put the cost of the equipment on some customer. Waymo and others are going to have to figure out how to handle that case, the world isn’t going to bend for Waymo, at least not yet.
Look at Scottie Scheffler's arrest for an extreme case of how very hard this is to get right.
I hope Waymo shares more solutions for winter driving to debunk a lot of the marketing for winter activity driving in the USA
The average car owner seems oblivious to the different types of tires. Most high performance cars come with summer tires. I live in a wealthy area where I often see new cars in parking lots wearing summer tires in winter, probably relying on electronic nannies to mask the lack of grip in normal driving.
I'm guessing they meant _Upstate AND Western New York_.
Glad someone in Waymo saw the potential for testing for extreme snowy conditions there.
When I lived in NYC I used "upstate" to mean anything not in the five boroughs, Long Island or Westchester, and I don't think this usage is uncommon.
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antisthenes•1h ago
Did you ever hydroplane in a car, even ever so slightly? That experience teaches you to slow down or stop and wait for the rain to be over pretty quickly.
XenophileJKO•1h ago
The only time people stopped was when it was hailing.. and then they would hide under bridges if they could.
amluto•2h ago
(I’d love to see a serious winter vehicle that can deploy traction devices by itself, perhaps while rolling at very low speed. Off the top of my head, it seems like it might be easier to put them on then to take them off.)
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beaviskhan•2h ago
No idea if they're compatible with Jaguars or whatever Waymo is rolling these days, but my guess is that Waymo could make the economics work.
rented_mule•1h ago
But chains aren't enough in some common situations around here that locals, including school bus drivers, know well. When we get a good size snow storm (multiple feet) and the sun comes out a day or two later, thick ice forms on the sections of road that the sun hits - snow melt runs across the road during the day and freezes at night, getting thicker and smoother each day. When that happens on our steeper inclines, chains on AWD/4WD vehicles are not enough to get up those inclines or to stop on the way down them. Locals know where those spots are and take other routes in those situations. It's hard for me to imagine autonomous vehicles having such local information in remote areas like this anytime soon.
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chemotaxis•1h ago
I doubt the tech will be immune to that. So it's up to how they manage the fallout from the crashes they end up getting into.
dingnuts•1h ago
even better if this is the only way to get around. no transport for whoever the Trump admin decides is insufficiently loyal!
y'all need to get more creative with your dystopias
strbean•51m ago
Based on their current approach, it'll be much simpler than facial recognition.
dingnuts•1h ago