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The profitable startup

https://linear.app/now/the-profitable-startup
82•doppp•4h ago

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timenotwasted•3h ago
It's really great to see the shift that has been taking place away from unicorns, growth for the sake of growth, and all the chaos that drove throughout. Maybe it's my own personal bias but I feel that these stories of low, slow growth; small teams, small wins but consistency are becoming more norm. While I realize there is still plenty of froth, it's inspiring and makes me hopeful for an industry shift in that direction.

"And when we launched after a year in private beta, almost all of our 100 beta users converted to paid customers." — That's a neat stat and one I'd be extremely proud of.

BobbyJo•2h ago
I could swear I read this exact same comment back in 2016.
nine_k•2h ago
I'm used to thinking that a "startup" implies a small company with hockey-stick growth and eventual market domination, usually deploying large amounts of capital to fuel the growth. Otherwise it's just a sparking small business: a pizzeria is not a startup.

It seems that the internet allows for a third option: a small company that grows slowly and organically which eventually captures a significant market segment, still staying small. GitHub was like that for many years since founding. Linear apparently is another example.

8n4vidtmkvmk•1h ago
Is there a better word for these grow slow companies?
all2•1h ago
"Normal growth"?
rebuilder•1h ago
Small business?
eviluncle•1h ago
"hypeless growth"
kchoudhu•1h ago
Businesses
jacquesm•54m ago
Solid? Right up to the point some funded start-up starts giving away the same thing in the hope that they can fake it until they make it and take everybody else in the same space down with them.
alberth•3h ago
48 Comments | 8-months ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43130480

contrarian1234•2h ago
This is just called a small business...

The whole point of startups is that you take on massive investment to scale extremely quickly and outrun all potential imitators. It's not the only viable growth model, but that's the whole conceit of startups and what differentiates them for small businesses

It's a bit silly to try to redefine the term b/c you want to self identify as a startup. Just come to terms with that fact you're running a small business

azundo•2h ago
I think the point is there are many "startups" with similar revenue and growth to Linear that never become profitable. I don't think Linear qualifies as a small business and I don't think they're scaling less quickly than someone in same market with more funding and less profit.
rubenvanwyk•2h ago
Being “startup” just means you’re a business building something new or novel, it doesn’t mean you automatically have to follow the VC-model for startups.
contrarian1234•2h ago
if you start a bakery selling kimchi bagels, its not a startup
Fomite•31m ago
They're disrupting the bagel market, leveraging their unique vision. Think of them as a DoorDash for people who want to come into their bakery.
mitthrowaway2•2h ago
Wouldn't the key difference be the growth trajectory? I see a startup as a small business that aims to become a big one. Most small businesses are comfortable at their size, but a startup is not. It could achieve that growth by taking on lots of investment, but that's not the only way.
aguacaterojo•1h ago
"Linear raises $82M in series C funding at $1.25B valuation to challenge Atlassian"
masterzachary•2h ago
The boot strapped startups I've seen that have had this holier than thou attitude that they are somehow selecting the best engineers by only having a tiny team have always had the absolute worst tech, the worst engineering, the worst leadership and usually also the worst processes that I've ever encountered.
comradesmith•2h ago
Yeah, but they know how to make money
jmtulloss•2h ago
Linear is a venture funded company
cmatza•2h ago
I’m a little suspicious of this because every startup says that they don’t hire the next engineer, they hire the next great engineer.

I think a lot of the value is taking the ordinary engineers (by hacker news) and letting them actually do something. Staying small helps this, because you are not thinking of the business ops burden of not building microservices. You’re building your single dockerized app.

kylegalbraith•2h ago
This idea makes the rounds on HN quarterly. I think folks reading this need to check their business model. Every company is slightly different and unique to how they are solving a particular problem.

That said, knowing how you get to profitability or what you need to change in your model to get to it are fundamental things to know. But just because Linear did it the way they’ve outlined here, doesn’t mean that is what will work for your model.

physicsguy•1h ago
The reason everyone did it was: interest rates.

When interest rates are low the cost of borrowing is low. Now investors can get returns by parking their money so the value proposition has to be stronger for them to invest in the first place, hence companies are now needing to show profitability earlier.

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