(The wheel on ours was broken so we could only control it via app).
Edit: If I read closely I would have seen:
> The firmware images and backend API server code will be open sourced soon, allowing the community to audit, improve, and self-host their own infrastructure.
Trust me bro.
https://github.com/codykociemba/NoLongerEvil-Thermostat/issu...
LFP
If you read the GitHub Readme (typically a better way to judge a project than stalking someone on LinkedIn) you can see that they didn’t write a custom firmware. They modified the Nest firmware to contact different back end servers.
The firmware is the same (they claim) except for modifications to change which server is contacted. They then built a back end to mimic the original Google serves.
I have been working on REing the hardware itself to write drivers directly - for example at https://sett.homes/blogs/updates/the-lcd-display-reverse-eng....
I am designing whole new PCBs that mount in the Nest so that we have 100% firmware control over the device... time will tell if we can do the same thing on the Linux OS that the Nest currently runs on, or if custom hardware will be needed because the OS has too much locked down
Zigbee allows firmware upgrades, but will not take you hostage. It isn’t perfect, but I’ll take it for having a user-first design instead of ARR-first.
Weather comp + low load comp + PID which means your room temperature works at the precision range supported by your temperature sensor. In my case, within 0.02 Celsius. Saves energy and makes your house more comfortable. Operated via home assistant.
See real time data in Grafana
https://gasboiler.grafana.net/public-dashboards/8d44381aafa9...
Or Emoncms
https://emoncms.org/app/view?name=MyBoilerIdealLogicH24Opent...
Making e-waste isn't desirable, but it's far from their most noteworthy moral atrocities and crimes against humanity.
¹ https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-c...
I am hopeful that Cody's exploit lets us write whole new firmware without the extra step of needing the new PCBs, but they are my next best option
I look forward to it!
>Why does it say 74?? I had it set to 75!!1!
Don't get me wrong, I love to see things like this, but just go all the way and allow folks to set their own URLs (maybe to servers they own in their own home).
[0] https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/nest-learning-thermostat-...
In fact - I don't even see a privacy policy on nolongerevil.com!
Hey, I can login at nolongerevil.com using my Microsoft-owned github login! And there's yet another company involved: clerk.com - yay?
"We are committed to transparency and the right-to-repair movement. The firmware images and backend API server code will be open sourced soon, allowing the community to audit, improve, and self-host their own infrastructure."
I look forward to it.
PS: Sorry for being so negative... perhaps the release should have been delayed until all of this is opened up.
And, I would really love to wire my nest into home assistant, but getting past the Google house of horrors is even scarier.
Are there any good thermostats that can be used with home assistant? I would really like to start understanding my energy usage in a safe way.
Even if it wasn't evil, I'd consider buying an expensive one a waste of money, which is kinda important considering I'm looking to save money.
What were they thinking, what was it gonna do, a single thermostat by itself? For this kind of money, they could've invested in actual energy efficiency improvements for their homes, not a device that allows Big tech to spy on them.
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For what it was worth, I really enjoyed helping everyone ramp up on NX. At that time in my career, I was ramping many similar groups up and many came from Apple and were experiencing sticker shock! (They bought the very best and it was not at all cheap!)
We talked about that and those in charge on my end were not at all happy with me showing people how geometry that normally requires a higher tier license to create, can be created with the base tier license, lol. (Mere mortals need that info because having the more expensive tool is not always on the table.)
Anyhow, stay cool. Maybe it will be different one day.
Please tell the others as you may encounter them, "That NX guy from PDX says, "Hi." You all may not know it, but I learned a ton from you guys. It was in the questions you asked and the processes you set up. I am applying some of that to my own projects today. So, thanks! ( way late! )
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