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Our dogs' diversity can be traced back to the Stone Age

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9d7j89ykro
24•1659447091•3d ago

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jimnotgym•2h ago
What does this say about me... I read that as someone has a nuerodiverse dog
dmix•2h ago
> Tamer wolves would get more food, and the humans gradually came to rely on the wolves to clean up remains of messy carcasses and to raise the alarm if a predator came near.

I read a book on the history of dogs https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/40180044-once-a-wolf

The only thing I remember is he said dogs may have stuck around humans because, like wolves today do with others predators, they could follow them around and scavenge off their successful hunts. But it was also possible the wolves/dogs just really liked snacking in between meals. Wolves are very capable at finding their own food but they enjoyed some meat & bones thrown to them in between their daily rounds. That's what crossed the line between scavenging on the outside and a closer relationship.

TrainedMonkey•1h ago
> But it was also possible the wolves/dogs just really liked snacking in between meals.

My pet theory is that humans captured wolf pups, possibly by dealing with parents first, and kept them around as pets. People love playing with tiger, bear, and wolf pups and keeping them as pets today.

SoftTalker•48m ago
They may have but that's a way to get a (maybe) tame wolf, not a domesticated dog.

It would take generations of breeding the tamest ones, with the behaviors you wanted, to get something like the beginnings of domesticated dogs.

Arwill•5m ago
I read somewhere, that it might not have been a process, but a unique event. Dogs are not just gradually tamed wolves, but domestication might have been started with a genetic defect that made them tame.
DaveZale•28m ago
did you ever hear the story about the Russian researcher who bred foxes into domestic pets within only about a dozen and a half dozen rounds of keeping only the "cutest" pups?

". Within just 15 generations of selective breeding, the experiment had yielded foxes that could live with people."

JumpCrisscross•51m ago
The most successful land-based hunters are variants of dogs and cats [1]. (House cats remain in the top ten.)

Humans broke the game by allying with or exterminating other apex predators. I don’t believe another double-apex alliance is seen anywhere else, in our biosphere or in the fossil record.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_success

nomel•44m ago
No, we broke the game by domestication, where we simplified hunting to walking the animal into the slaughterhouse. Mammalian wildlife is < 5% of mammalian biomass on earth, with humans being around 30% and domesticated animals being around 60% [1].

Fr example, there are around 30 billion chickens in the world, butchered within 6-8 weeks. Repeat.

[1] https://wildlife.org/on-a-global-scale-livestock-outweighs-w...

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