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New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

https://techreport.com/news/new-eu-chat-control-proposal-privacy-experts-see-dangerous-backdoor/
85•ericzawo•2h ago

Comments

dataking•1h ago
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

As far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.

ryandrake•1h ago
On the contrary, it doesn't seem to have had any effect at all. Nobody actually defeated anything if it just gets re-proposed a few weeks later.
pixl97•1h ago
Ah, the US way, just keep trying to pass the bill again and again until people get tired and it eventually passes quietly.
danaris•1h ago
Every time we stop it from becoming law, that is a victory.

Viewing it as anything else is actively counterproductive.

The fact that they will keep bringing it back until we have better people in the EU Parliament just means that we have to win more victories.

jononor•10m ago
Winning a battle and living to fight another day is useful. Does not mean the fight is over, of course.
getcrunk•1h ago
How would these types of proposals deal with foss non centralized/fully p2p messaging system? Just make them illegal?

What if the foss app has the “scanning” but can be disabled with a compile time flag

Is my email client going to have to implement this scanning if I use pgp?

dmitrygr•1h ago
the worst (and the only) way possible: hold authors or distributors of the said software responsible: Order apple and google to remove apps, Order ISPs to block domains that host PWAs, Issue arrest warrants for authors of software that does not or cannot comply.
layer8•1h ago
The proposals apply to “providers” of “hosting services“, of “interpersonal communications service”, and of “software application stores” (you can look up the definitions for yourself in the published texts). It’s hard to see how that would apply to purely P2P systems, except that distributing an app for it via app stores would likely require user age verification.
thewebguyd•40m ago
Flathub, the snap store, gnome software, etc. all technically meet the definitino of software application store.

Makes me wonder (and worry) if they can stretch the definition to apply to standard package repos as well. Are we going to be entering an era where you have to verify your identity & age to apt-get software?

layer8•13m ago
Or switch to P2P distribution.

The real danger is if hardware becomes dongled by firmware that doesn’t allow you to install anything you want anymore.

varispeed•1h ago
The EU has been taken over by terrorists and law enforcement does nothing. People behind Chat Controls should be arrested.

These proposals are against German laws and other EU countries. It can be treated as terrorist attack attempt.

It creates psychological and physical harm, indiscriminately for ideological gain. Textbook terrorism, except done by nice people in suits and there is no blood (yet).

dang•1h ago
Recent and related:

The disguised return of EU Chat Control - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45929511 - Nov 2025 (340 comments)

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