I doubt the traffic hitting it would be sufficient to drain the battery overnight.
In short, far phone is the phone which powers far computer which is in turn served from https://far.computer
On the other hand, I have seen cheap 18650s spontaneously start smoking even when they weren’t plugged in to anything…
bbarnett•2h ago
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lisper•2h ago
conradev•2h ago
Induane•2h ago
It's been in there for 5 years now, always plugged in.
neilv•1h ago
OK, but "fire" is right there, in the name.
misnome•41m ago
95%+ of people would report “zero problems here, all concern is overblown”.
Safety doesn’t work that way?
bbarnett•2h ago
Telaneo•2h ago
On older devices the controller might make some assumptions that holds true with a new battery, but very much doesn't with an old and worn one.
My Macs have all been sensible about it, but I've seen Windows machines with batteries that just died from being plugged in all the time not even 10 years ago. Even if that specific instance was just a bad battery and not due to a charge controller, I have no faith in Random Windows or Android OEM Number 582 doing this correctly.
For devices that are fixed, I'd prefer to eliminate the potential of there even being a problem in the first place.
oceanplexian•1h ago
joecool1029•1h ago
Where things go off the rails is situations where extreme heat can be present (shoving phone in direct sunlight in window with hot climate is a bad move) another thing they don’t tolerate well and people don’t talk enough about this is deep discharging the batteries frequently. This causes a breakdown of the SEI membrane and makes it so future recharging generates more heat and gas. This will cause expansion and might cause a short/failure if poorly designed (galaxy note 7).
pengaru•2h ago
Ostensibly they contain charge controllers and temperature sensors, yet they're unable to prevent this outcome when the ambient temperature exceeds 110F day after day while the device stays on in a hot attic w/usb-c pd connected.
Fortunately I haven't had any burst into flames yet, but after a few years of seeing this pattern repeatedly I stopped deploying anything containing LiPo batteries at the property.
YMMV - but IMHO it's prudent to exclude these batteries from such unattended, powered 24x7 devices.
The_President•1h ago
pengaru•1h ago
It worked as a stop-gap but I've since replaced it with a GL.Inet X300b ruggedized hotspot without any batteries.
There's no UPS for now... if I went the route of wanting uninterrupted power at the property I'd probably put a battery bank underground outside to power the entire building. It's not worth risking anything rechargeable inside the place given how hot it can get, and how long I sometimes go without visiting.
The_President•1h ago
pengaru•55m ago
The situation is far more complicated for folks in apartments or high density housing.
joecool1029•1h ago
What roasts the lifetime of my laptop batteries is compiling with gentoo, but again never an issue with catastrophic failure and I have 20+ years of experience with that as well.
immibis•1h ago
I'd guess it would have more to do with heat, though.
dang•1h ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
daemonologist•1h ago
Nowadays if I want to leave a device plugged in I crack it open, remove the battery cell, solder on a power supply and capacitor, and then do the nonsense with rooted Android to keep it from shutting itself down.
bayindirh•59m ago
e.g.: MacBooks discharge the battery down to 80% by using the battery even if it's plugged in by citing "Rarely used battery", and keep the battery at 80% for at least half a day, then charge it again.
Li-ion is an adversarial chemistry. You need to take care of it or the battery bites back by puffing up or losing capacity very fast, or becoming an indoor firework.