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Launch HN: Browser Buddy (YC W24) – A recommendation system for Internet writing

https://www.browserbuddy.com/
51•alien0006•2mo ago
Hey HN! We're Arnav and Jeremy and we're building Browser Buddy, a recommendation system you can chat with to find quality Internet writing based on your interests and aspirations.

As we've grown up, this writing was a source of inspiration that helped us discover ideas and opportunities we didn't even know we were looking for (ex. applying to YC because of PG's essays).

But despite so many new creators and websites coming online, the best of the open Internet remains hard-to-find, scattered across personal sites (https://www.paulgraham.com/, https://www.eugenewei.com/), niche publications (https://www.noemamag.com/, https://worksinprogress.co/), and various independent publishing platforms (https://bearblog.dev/, https://substack.com/, https://medium.com/). Outside of "social" media platforms, there's very high friction to get into a new subject or stumble upon credible people who write about your interests.

We feel there should be an easier (and mobile-friendly) way to find fantastic media and curate this intentional, interesting information diet for yourself.

Browser Buddy is an iOS app that curates this interesting, thought-provoking writing for you from across the Internet. It's particularly good to explore topics like programming, startups, math, philosophy, machine learning, and design.

Here's a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmEeo4mjc7U

Here are some example recommendations:

"I'm trying to grow my early stage consumer internet company": https://cdixon.org/2015/01/31/come-for-the-tool-stay-for-the... https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-the-biggest-consumer-...

"I want to learn how to build beautiful web interfaces": https://frankchimero.com/blog/2015/the-webs-grain/ https://alistapart.com/article/responsive-web-design/

"Teach me the history of the Internet": https://www.mic.com/impact/how-geocities-webrings-made-the-9... https://computerhistory.org/blog/history-of-the-future-octob...

"I'm trying to read more about games and game theory": https://franklantz.substack.com/p/playing-balatro https://joecarlsmith.com/2022/03/16/on-expected-utility-part...

"I've been getting into network science and network theory": https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/10/27/warrens-plazas-and-the... https://www.strangeloopcanon.com/p/seeing-like-a-network

We trained a language model to recommend webpages how people do through hyperlinks. Hyperlinks can be an expressive way to describe a webpage (https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/07/01/the-rhetoric-of-the-hy...), but there's a lot of spam and low-quality linking online that would serve as bad training examples. We found the structure of the link graph to still be a fantastic way to understand what content is salient, and used it heavily to filter and build our dataset. The resulting model is best for expressive, exploratory queries where you describe what you are looking for (like a prompt to an LLM) rather than entering in keywords (like a search on Google). This model is the main "curation" step in our system that picks from our index of ~150 million (and growing) webpages.

We built Browser Buddy to try and recreate the feeling of getting a thoughtful recommendation from a smart friend. Our early users have described it as a "refreshing stream of timely and timeless writing", "serendipitous discovery", "rabbit holes that feel joyfully unfunneled". We are iterating on the concept and how it's presented, but we really value the HN community and would love to hear what you all think:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/browser-buddy/id6752281959

Thank you for your time and being a part of the Internet we love!

Jeremy (jeremy@browserbuddy.com) and Arnav (arnav@browserbuddy.com)

Comments

thuuuomas•2mo ago
My concern with something like this is content marketing or other forms of surreptitious advertising.

Will you clearly indicate “boosted” authors/publishers/pieces?

alien0006•2mo ago
We don’t boost any authors/publishers/pieces. We don’t have any specific plan to monetize right now, but many AI-based products seem to work well as paid subscriptions vs using an advertising model.
skeeter2020•2mo ago
>> We don’t have any specific plan to monetize right now

YC has changed. It's like we're back in the late 90's!

wxce•2mo ago
Why isn't there a working website? You've been up since 2024
pickleglitch•2mo ago
Seriously, the product focuses on personal and independent content, primarily published on websites, but the app only works in iOS. That seems like a fundamental mismatch.
Jsuh•2mo ago
Good point, we put the essay search up on the site (we're working on porting the rest of it over as well).

Try it out! https://www.browserbuddy.com/

pickleglitch•2mo ago
Browser* Buddy

*Not available in a browser.

swyx•2mo ago
lol yeah why not do webapp so much easier than ios
alien0006•2mo ago
We originally started with a webapp but found ourselves using it much more on our phones.

Happy to bring back the webapp if there’s strong interest!

NoelJacob•2mo ago
Please do. Also try making a newtab page.
pickleglitch•2mo ago
Well, by limiting yourselves to iPhone you are eliminating at least half of smartphone users, and 100% of non-smartphone users.
christoff12•2mo ago
Would be much easier to try. I was expecting a chrome extension.
greazy•2mo ago
yes please bring it back. browsers work perfectly fine on phones
Jsuh•2mo ago
We're working on porting the recommendation system to the web but our landing page now has the "essay search" part of the mobile app for you to try!

https://www.browserbuddy.com/

nwhnwh•2mo ago
Translation: You, Android user, is a second class citizen. And you, you are using the browser??? I won't even describe you, because you are less than that.
rd•2mo ago
Go Hoos good work Wadehra
achandra03•2mo ago
congrats arnav, you've come a long way from the balz days :)
yoavm•2mo ago
This is what I'm using Hacker News for. It doesn't require an app, it's super fast, the curating is done by real people (not by AI), and often the comments add a lot of value to the discussed article.
Jsuh•2mo ago
We check hackernews every day too but often have a hard time exploring specific interests that are not currently trending.

You're right though, the community/comments add a ton of value and its something we're thinking on.

trinsic2•2mo ago
the tool should be on the open web as a primary, not closed off in a walled garden mobile app.
Jsuh•2mo ago
Good point, we made the essay/blog search available:

Try it out: https://www.browserbuddy.com/

chrisweekly•2mo ago
I tend to find substantially more value in HN comments than in the posted articles.
bakkerinho•2mo ago
Not available in my country / region says the AppStore. Greetings from Europe.
Jsuh•2mo ago
ah, i submitted some EU trader requirements stuff. could you shoot me an email @ jeremy@browserbuddy.com so i can let you know when we get approved?
Jsuh•2mo ago
Hey! We should be live in your region, can you try it now?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/browser-buddy/id6752281959

rishabhaiover•2mo ago
Interesting concept, though I’m not sure I’d install something called `browserbuddy` on my phone.
Jsuh•2mo ago
We made our essay search usable on the landing page!

Try it out: https://www.browserbuddy.com/

mbreese•2mo ago
How much research did you guys do on the name? This might be the most amazing product ever, but I'll never know. I'm not inclined to install anything with the name "X Buddy". For me, it brings the negative associations from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BonziBuddy

It's not a knock on anything you've done, because it looks pretty nice. But, just based on the name, I'm not sure I know what it does or why I'd want it. That's a decent amount of inertia to overcome to get someone to install an app on their phone called "browser buddy". It just screams malware to me... but maybe I'm just paranoid.

alien0006•2mo ago
Yikes! We'd never heard of that.

We picked "Browser Buddy" to name our surfing penguin logo.

mbreese•2mo ago
I suspected you hadn't, which is why I wanted to bring it up. It's admittedly a pretty dated reference, but was really common right around 2000. At least, it was commonly installed where I was around 2001. I don't think it was malware right away (it's been a while), but by the end of it's run, it seemed sketchy at best.

It's a tough balance to get right... you want to be approachable and friendly so that people will try your app. But you don't want to come across as a big purple gorilla or Clippy. I do like the penguin!

ElasticBottle•2mo ago
I've wanted something like this for a long time! Waiting for the android /browser release!
Jsuh•2mo ago
I'm sorry we don't support those yet! Can you send me an email @ jeremy@browserbuddy.com so I can shoot you an email when we have a browser version?
dian2023•2mo ago
I really like this concept. What's the advantage of using your app instead of using ChatGPT etc to surface this kind of content?

I get you have this 'curated' dataset but how much better than a good prompt for ChatGPT do you think this is?

(not intending to be negative, I'm genuinely curious)

alien0006•2mo ago
Our goal with our dataset is to only focus on the personal web. The search APIs that LLMs use rank a lot of SEO/commercial content highly that we were not interested in

To measure that we do better here, we made evaluations based on how real people recommend websites on their blogs/writing/articles. For example, we tend to surface https://every.to/p/invisible-details-of-interaction-design rather than https://userpilot.com/blog/interaction-design-principles/ when searching for advice on getting better at interaction design.

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