Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?
and cheaper gas is basically trump policies.
i think we should ban gas and let other countries take over (with gas) /s
Interestingly one policy Trump actually controls: he has cut the rate of adding stocks to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in half. From Dec '24 to Dec '25 they added only 19 million barrels, compared to the 40 million barrels added in the prior year, despite Trump campaigning on filling the SPR "right to the top". The last, and only, administration that has topped off the SPR was Obama.
Of course, if you fuel off of something like solar or natural gas you can do far better, but a lot of people are just stopping at the point they have electric and then patting themselves on the back as superior.
[0] https://www.ucs.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Clean...
Sorry, just being smug with some inconvenient facts.
I don't think making up a smug EV owner is a very substantial comment. I haven't. met anyone who thinks like this. I imagine most people with electric vehicles would be happy if their energy came from cleaner sources.
Just goes to show that most people are parrots and not actually using their head when stating arguments.
[1]https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet...
It's changed much in the last couple of years, so surely it's changed much in the last 50 years.
(the real problems being that other countries will continue growing, destructionist policies set things up so that return of economic activity is even more polluting, and a moribund economy makes responding to climate change chaos much harder)
It is so bad that the state has implemented fence line monitoring. [1]
As someone who lives in Colorado, I'd be happy to see Suncor go. Especially now that I just learned the oil they're refining is Canadian tar sand oil.
[0] https://coloradosun.com/2024/02/05/colorado-suncor-air-pollu... [1] https://cdphe.colorado.gov/public-information/air-quality-an...
alephnerd•1d ago
Even in China, most consumers "despite buying more EVs, are less interested in how their cars are powered, and more in their digital lifestyle integration" [0].
I like EVs but I think that in most markets they're at the same point today that hybrid cars were in the 2010s - proven, but still a difficult financial sell in the short term due to high upfront costs for consumers.
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> Which seems odd in an article claiming the global tide has turned against EVs
Becuase China is not the world. Most other markets have seen either a slowdown or a reversal in EV sales - especially following the reduction of EV purchase subsidizes in most markets.
It also highlights the fact that a large portion of customers are indifferent about ecological sentiment, and that EVs can only outpace ICE if their upfront cost or net-new features (in China's case, EVs tended to have better features than ICE cars sold domestically) outpace ICE vehicles.
Even Chinese automotive players (primarily SOEs that couldn't compete with private sector BYD) have been taking advantage of this market shift, become major ICE car exporters now [1].
[0] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/combustion-engine-ca...
[1] - https://www.reuters.com/investigations/china-floods-world-wi...
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It's like some weird 3rd-hand sour grapes. Yes they bought the EV but they don't care about it being an EV! Which matters, for reasons...
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Oil and Gas doesn't even want to make investments that trump is pushing, because all those green subsidies and programs will likely come roaring back in a few years. The government may be gerrymandered and senate locked into a tight battle between red and blue, but consumer sentiment is purely popular vote. The trend is pretty clear that consumers want to get away from fossil fuels.
kieranmaine•1d ago
I think this is a false dawn. EV sales in Germany have rebounded strongly after the removal of subsidies [1].
"Germany was the largest contributor, with more than 434,600 new EV registrations and one of the strongest growth rates in the bloc, up 39.4% year-on-year"
EU EV sales are up in 2025 in comparison with 2024 [1]
"Battery electric vehicles accounted for 16.4% of newly registered cars in the EU during the first ten months of 2025, according to figures from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association (ACEA). That compares with 13.2% over the same period in 2024."
1. https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/11/25/the-electric-tr... 2. https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&av-23...