Interestingly it stayed up if you weren't logged in.

Next time try not to beat a dead horse expecting it to resurrect. :)

I did not know how addicted I was to HN until today lol

Same! Right there with "every day must begin with coffee"

It just reinforces for me that addiction is a human problem not a problem with technology

I know dang basically works tirelessly to not change the format in order to not induce those addictive patterns

but yet here we all are

I say. Vibe coded 4 apps once I got past that, on my way to half a billion in ARR already.

So do I, but it was such a shock that I just passed out, and when I woke up, it was back up.

I learn more reading the comments here than anywhere else. Thanks everyone for my addiction.

I’ve turned on no procrast mode and set it to ten minutes per hour. Helped me a lot!

If you're looking to put the brakes on that, I've used LeechBlock to add a 5-second timer to opening a new HN window (along with other block schedules). The timer even fails if it loses focus, so it really helps slow you down.

https://www.proginosko.com/leechblock/

I already knew that. :)

obligatory: https://xkcd.com/477/

⌘-T, N, <RET>

Did it like 5 times during that 1h-ish outage. :(

This was more impactful to my day than the last AWS and CloudFlare outages...

Thank you for HACK. I love it!

You use ChatGPT to know it a site is down?

hahaha

Next time you can avoid that fate by opening HN in a private browsing (or whatever your browser calls its equivalent) window. This outage, like the vast majority of HN outages, only affected logged in requests.

I suppose you could also just clear your HN cookies in regular browsing window, but then when they fix it you'd have to log in again.

We can live without the former, but not HN!

Time to update the meme: https://preview.redd.it/cloudflare-had-a-rough-day-today-and...

You handle your irrational anger much better than whatevermrfukz who keeps pooping his pants.

you could refuse to be angry to mock it

Could this be a self-inflicted bug? In that case, the broader point still stands: cloud providers can cause outages that are outside your direct realm of responsibility.

It's absolutely irresistible downvoting people who preemptively complain about being downvoted like you do. It really made my day. Post another complaint so I can do it again please! It's not knee jerk when you explicitly ask for it, by leading with a complaint about downvoting, instead of just making your point and letting it fall or rise on its own merits. You're the one who put the idea of downvoting you into my head in the first place.

Unless the downtime was caused by something Cloudflare would've prevented, this downtime would've happened regardless of being behind Cloudflare. Cloudflare adds another single point of failure.

Complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes, so the response here isn't really that surprising.

Keep in mind that votes aren't supposed to be about whether you agree or disagree, but whether a comment adds substance to the thread. A good question that makes a wrong assumption can be worth upvoting; a correct but fairly irrelevant statement about politics not (to give a relatively obvious example)

Being "voted to -2" doesn't necessarily mean you were wrong (it often correlates though). People might just think it wasn't relevant in whatever context you posted it in

I often find it hard to tell what makes people think something I write is not helpful (or sometimes also a comment someone else made) and thus appreciate comments that clarify constructively. It can also help to ask for clarification if you're particularly surprised about the votes on a given post

You're probably being downvoted today for your "I was smarter than you" tone.

A lot of them got fooled by the caching; pages for signed-out users are cached heavily and those kept returning successful responses even if the actual backend server was down.

And an outage reliability indicator for that outage reliability indicator.

So a downdetectorsdowndetector.com but for Hacker News?

https://hn.hund.io/ Is a status page, no idea if official or not, but it didn't register here for some reason.

I didn't read the post text, it's identified there haha, my bad! I wish the text post text wasn't grey, I gloss over it too easily.

Only way I have figured out how to to change the "Following" sort order back to chronological is from the mobile app: click the down arrow on the "Following" tab. Change the sort from "popular" to "most recent."

Seems to reset it on the web view, too.

You don't visit enough my friend :)

It's down about 8.4 minutes per week. On 26% of days it doesn't work at least once, and on 12% of days it has more than one consecutive failed check. The longest uptime streak was 24 days

I've been keeping track since exactly 2 years (to the day!) because I was surprised that it seemed briefly down for me on a daily basis. Was I getting unlucky and hitting it every time, or was it just down very often? Nobody posted anything so I started answering the question for myself :p

I've been meaning to post the tracker to HN but there's a pesky bug I want to fix: the "is it currently down" stat. I don't know how this is beyond me but something in the code bugs out. So this is my first time posting about it

I thought I was being rate-limited for opening posts too fast, which has happened before.

After more than an hour I thought, "wow this is pretty harsh" and "so much of my exposure to learning things is directly tied to HN posts". I was lost lol.

Your comment history doesn't sound IP-ban-worthy. Is there an alt that has you worried? :P

Me too and I was wondering what I did!

Yeah me too. Wake up -> HN down -> That's weird, oh well it's usually only down for a few minutes -> I should check if HN is still down -> That's weird, oh well it's usually only down for a few minutes -> I should check if HN is still down -> loop.

That was a few hours ago. I'm glad this loop is broken.

Sometimes I'll catch myself absentmindedly reopening the browser and checking two or three front pages, seconds after having just checked them and closed the browser.

I always hated the late use-it-or-loose-it at the end of the year where you end up buying the things that were denied requests from earlier in the year. You just cost me half a year of using the damn thing.

Is this a mistake by hund, or the configuration of hund by HN?

Thank you. I was thinking myself or my corporate IP was shadowbanned

Now it makes sense. I was puzzled about why it was working on the phone browser and not on my system. I'm logged into HN on my system.

Looking forward to the post mortem. :)

I didn't realize you were carrying the pager too! Kudos!