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Phoenix: A modern X server written from scratch in Zig

https://git.dec05eba.com/phoenix/about/
136•snvzz•1h ago•48 comments

Tell HN: Merry Christmas

276•basilikum•1h ago•87 comments

Show HN: Minimalist editor that lives in browser, stores everything in the URL

https://github.com/antonmedv/textarea
218•medv•4h ago•77 comments

Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

https://ivanca.github.io/programming/2025/11/26/microsoft-pls-get-your-tab-to-autocomplete-shit-t...
34•AmbroseBierce•1h ago•10 comments

CSRF protection without tokens or hidden form fields

https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/csrf-protection-without-tokens-or-hidden-form-fields
65•adevilinyc•2d ago•6 comments

Fabrice Bellard: Biography (2009) [pdf]

https://www.ipaidia.gr/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/117-2020-fabrice-bellard.pdf
178•lioeters•6h ago•48 comments

Research team digitizes more than 100 years of Canadian infectious disease data

https://news.mcmaster.ca/mcmaster-research-team-digitizes-more-than-100-years-of-canadian-infecti...
35•XzetaU8•5d ago•1 comments

Asterisk AI Voice Agent

https://github.com/hkjarral/Asterisk-AI-Voice-Agent
10•akrulino•1h ago•0 comments

Show HN: Vibium – Browser automation for AI and humans, by Selenium's creator

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYU2hAbx_Fc
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Comptime – C# meta-programming with compile-time code generation and evaluation

https://github.com/sebastienros/comptime
30•bj-rn•4d ago•4 comments

Nvidia buying AI chip startup Groq for about $20B in cash

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/24/nvidia-buying-ai-chip-startup-groq-for-about-20-billion-biggest-d...
300•nickrubin•3h ago•192 comments

Keystone (YC S25) is hiring engineer #1 to automate coding

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/keystone/jobs/J3t9XeM-founding-engineer
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When Compilers Surprise You

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197•brewmarche•11h ago•94 comments

Qntm's Power Tower Toy

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Online Book: Exploring Mathematics with Python

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The dawn of a world simulator

https://odyssey.ml/the-dawn-of-a-world-simulator
29•olivercameron•4d ago•5 comments

How GNU Guile is 10x better (2021)

https://www.draketo.de/software/guile-10x
56•Tomte•3d ago•2 comments

Fabrice Bellard Releases MicroQuickJS

https://github.com/bellard/mquickjs/blob/main/README.md
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How I Left YouTube

https://zhach.news/how-i-left-youtube/
41•dhashe•2h ago•56 comments

A faster path to container images in Bazel

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Jingle Bells (Batman Smells): An incomplete festive folk-rhyme taxonomy

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53•helsinkiandrew•3d ago•14 comments

The port I couldn't ship

https://ammil.industries/the-port-i-couldnt-ship/
88•cjlm•6d ago•49 comments

Spaced repetition for efficient learning (2019)

https://gwern.net/spaced-repetition
79•tsenturk•3h ago•28 comments

Confessions to a Data Lake

https://confer.to/blog/2025/12/confessions-to-a-data-lake/
15•kkl•1d ago•5 comments

I'm returning my Framework 16

https://yorickpeterse.com/articles/im-returning-my-framework-16/
141•YorickPeterse•11h ago•244 comments

Show HN: A local-first, reversible PII scrubber for AI workflows

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16•tjruesch•7h ago•0 comments

My 2026 Open Social Web Predictions

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75•todsacerdoti•8h ago•71 comments

The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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142•zeristor•16h ago•105 comments

Quake's Player Speed (2017)

https://rome.ro/quakes-player-speed-1
51•klaussilveira•1d ago•14 comments
Open in hackernews

Why did we use leaded petrol for so long? (2017)

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40593353
48•simonebrunozzi•3d ago

Comments

drweevil•3d ago
> Cynics might point out that any old farmer could distill ethyl alcohol from grain. It couldn't be patented, or its distribution profitably controlled. Tetraethyl lead could.

Were they cynics, though? As the article itself points out, the dangers of tetraethyl lead were already well know. And then there is this:

> And, as Gerald Markowitz and David Rosner point out, "For the next four decades, all studies of the use of tetraethyl lead were conducted by laboratories and scientists funded by the Ethyl Corporation and General Motors".

It doesn't take a cynic to see what was going on here.

amiga386•2d ago
Veritasium did a great video on Midgley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3dnLzthDA

And therein they give the reason why ethanol was passed over: a lot of it is required to be effective (~10% of the fuel mixture), seriously dampening the profit margin of fuel sales! It works, but tetraethyl lead is so much cheaper

somat•2d ago
It's not even that. alcohol destroys engines.

Sure in retrospect lead is a bad idea. but for the sake of argument. If we ignore all the subtlety of the real world choices, research and development required the argument would probably be.

We have this great additive that will let us make more powerful efficient engines that is also stable and lubricating or we could put something in the gas that degrades quickly and eats all the rubber seals out of our customers engines.

In short even ignoring price alcohol was a non starter then, even today with many years of developing rubbers that handle alcohol better E blends are a lot harder on engines than non E blends.

And a fun science experiment "how do you tell how much alcohol is in the gas?" fill a glass mason jar about a third full of gas, mark a line on the jar where the gas is. put another third of water in and color it with food coloring, put lid on and shake well, let separate and settle out. mark new line on glass where gas is. figure out percentage. The alcohol is water soluble and will have formed a solution with the water, the food coloring will only color the water and will let you see the boundery layer easier.

dontlaugh•2d ago
That used to be true.

For a while now, any petrol car can run on high ethanol mixed without any damage.

nubinetwork•2d ago
Then why use gasoline at all? This might sound sacrilegious, but I honestly wish LPG had more pull than it did in Canada.
somat•2d ago
True but it was a real consideration for a surprisingly long time. And you still find a lot of lawnmowers that tell you not to use E mixes in them, I am not sure why (my guess are either they are being super cheap on the rubber or just acknowledging the fact that lawnmowers tend to sit and the E mixes sitting tends to corrode things and go bad.)
KennyBlanken•1h ago
Literally nothing keeps the power equipment industry from making their carb parts out of components that won't rust except being cheap asses and wanting to sell parts and kits and keep their dealers happy with repair business.
mikeodds•2d ago
I’m perpetually having to take apart and clean the carbs of a 2003 motorbike because of the added Ethanol in fuel nowadays.
kevin_thibedeau•53m ago
I have a nylon fuel tank on a 2003 bike and it has swollen from ethanol such that it is tricky to remount after removal because it expands when unconstrained by the frame. Ducati had a recall over this but Triumph got away without having to do one. I have been running ethanol-free for a few years now because a station is near me but that doesn't fix the problem.
garbagewoman•39m ago
Surprising that such a poor quality motorcycle was mass produced
jshier•48m ago
My local Meijer gas station recently remodeled and now carries Rec gas, which contains no Ethanol or any other additives. It's actually more expensive than any of the other fuels there, but it is designed for things like motorbikes and lawn equipment.
Scoundreller•39m ago
I thought ethanol was cheaper than gas. And the octane boost means the gas doesn’t need as pricy refining, especially in summer when you can’t load it up with butane.

+ the decreased fuel economy gets people to the stations more often where the high margin stuff is sold.

And if the US can convince the world to include ethanol in fuel, that helps if you’re the biggest corn grower on the planet. Even Canada imports about half of its ethanol (almost entirely from USA), with some of the domestic ethanol production using US corn.

themafia•2h ago
Tetraethyl lead has a lifetime of a year when mixed into fuel. Ethyl alcohol has a lifetime of 3 months when mixed into fuel.

Tetraethyl lead oxidizes and the lead falls out of the solution over time. Ethyl alcohol pulls water from the air and dilutes itself over time.

You also need highly pure and anhydrous Ethyl alcohol for mixture into fuels.

The products simply aren't equivalent when you consider the massive system of fuel delivery and use that exists. The US is a huge country and there aren't refineries everywhere.

Scoundreller•45m ago
> Ethyl alcohol pulls water from the air and dilutes itself over time.

How much of a problem is this for people that don’t store their gasoline in open containers?

Like, I get that many containers aren’t 100% sealed to avoid bursting/collapsing, but I don’t get any whiffs of gas when walking by my plastic Jerry cans.

drweevil•8m ago
And yet, tetraethyl lead is a deadly poison. Surely that is a factor worth considering?
Lio•1h ago
I could imagine Acquired doing a podcast on Ethyl Corporation gushing about how wonderful ut is.

“Yeah lead is a great business to be in. Let’s do a bull and bear analysis going forward.”

My cynicism is burnt in at this point. You only have to look at how willingly people are to keep pushing fossil fuels.

rgmerk•1h ago
Harsh but accurate.
HPsquared•29m ago
It'd be interesting to compare and contrast this to the pharmaceutical industry.
like_any_other•2d ago
> How did the US get this so wrong for so long? [..] For the next four decades, all studies of the use of tetraethyl lead were conducted by laboratories and scientists funded by the Ethyl Corporation and General Motors

The BBC is British - what about the UK? The rest of Europe? China? Japan? Russia? Australia? Did the entire rest of the world also use leaded petrol? And stopped using it at the same time as the US?

jackvalentine•2d ago
> The BBC is British - what about the UK? The rest of Europe? China? Japan? Russia? Australia? Did the entire rest of the world also use leaded petrol? And stopped using it at the same time as the US?

More or less.

https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/every-country-has-n...

TylerE•1h ago
In cars, yes. In the aviation world the fuel is very much still leaded.
anonnon•22m ago
> In the aviation world the fuel is very much still leaded.

In the general aviation world, to be precise: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa...

The fact that GA is the quintessential arrogant rich man's hobby makes the environmental and human health externalities of it all the more disgusting. However, looking at it from a glass half full perspective, GA does exist at that sweet avocational intersection of "expensive" and "deadly," often putting a significant dent in the finances of those whom it seduces before killing them.

extraduder_ire•2d ago
I was pretty surprised to learn the US totally banned it for cars about 5 years before the UK/EU.
kergonath•21m ago
For context, the EU is a big place. You need every 27 countries to agree to get anything done, or a big push from the parliament. When it comes to environment regulations, EU regulations are pretty much the common denominator. The fact that this is still more stringent than the UK’s regulations says more about the UK than it does about the EU, unfortunately.
1970-01-01•2d ago
The 21st century version of this will be "Why did we use petrol for so long?"
saulpw•2d ago
I think it will be 'ads'.
jokoon•2d ago
Or pfas, plastic...
casey2•2d ago
The USSR banned TEL in cities in the 50s
time4tea•2d ago
Same guy invented CFCs. What a **!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0m89fqk?partner=uk.co.bbc...

Cautionary Tales: The Inventor who almost ended the world. BBC Sounds Podcasts

Edit: add title Edit: typo

themafia•1h ago
Regardless of the refrigerant used today the law generally requires you to use a pump and to recover the charge from installed equipment and store it into a cylinder for recycling or reuse.

Prior to the clean air act the advice was to just open the system and vent the old charge into the atmosphere.

Industry was always going to require us to learn _a lot_ of lessons.

lucideng•2d ago
I worked as an Engine Machinist for a time, and I was told that lead in the fuel aided in sealing the valves, kept valves cooler by helping seal the valve, possibly acting as an impact damper, prevented valves from sticking to the seat and slowed corrosion. When lead was removed from fuel, common practice is to use a valve seat insert made from a different material, usually a high nickel alloy.

Lead fuel was during a time when the cylinder heads were mostly cast-iron, and the valve seat was cut directly into the head. Cast iron is an interesting material, it's reasonably durable, but it corrodes/rusts very easily, especially when exposed to moisture. Gasoline and ethanol both have water as combustion byproducts, so when the engine is off and cools, some of that moisture condenses inside the engine.

Running straight ethanol in an engine without corrosion resistant materials causes much more wear over time because it tends to strip the protective/lubricative oil barriers away, causing iron to corrode when the engine isn't running. Modern engines are aluminum heads with valve seat inserts, stainless steel valves, better piston ring materials (high chromium I think? these were cast iron in the past).

Ethanol has a significant detergent/cleaning effect, even when at 5-10% concentration in gasoline. The valve stems also get some of their lubrication from the fuel, and gasoline is basically a thin oil, and provides protection to mechanical components, better yet with additives. Ethanol is also a difficult fuel in a cold start situation and requires good compression and a strong ignition system to kick it off.

I suspect the whole reason to want to keep lead was motivated by the bean counters involved. They saw a cost savings with lead in the fuel. Cheaper materials and no tooling changes. This means more profits.

ErroneousBosh•1h ago
> Modern engines are aluminum heads with valve seat inserts, stainless steel valves, better piston ring materials (high chromium I think? these were cast iron in the past).

You say "modern", but that's a fairly typical 1980s car engine.

airbreather•3h ago
we still do for light aviation
KennyBlanken•2h ago
We still do for piston aircraft, thanks to intense lobbying by the aviation piston engine industry.

There's even a 100LL alternative that has sailed through most tests the FAA requires but the FAA has been stonewalling them for something like a decade. The FAA is full of paper-pushing corrupt beaurocrats who are firmly in the pocket of industry, as demonstrated by the thousands of victims of Boeing crashes from the idiocy of the MAX program (wherein Boeing did not want to spend the money to redesign an aircraft for bigger passenger and cargo loads, so they just stretched the plane, which put the Cg out of whack, which meant they needed to have a computer help fly the plane...and then skimped on redundancy.)

ultrarunner•1h ago
I don’t think that an unleaded fuel is 100% ready to go, but you’re absolutely right that the FAA is a huge reason why. My plane is certified for 80/87 (a fuel no longer produced) but the paperwork involved means I’ll just keep burning 100LL for the foreseeable future. With all the engine damage that incurs.
garbagewoman•35m ago
Choosing to burn a fuel that poisons everyone around you just to avoid some paperwork is an incredible feat of individualistic thinking
Scoundreller•26m ago
And for some aircraft, the only thing stopping you from switching to automotive gas is writing a cheque for a certificate.
AnimalMuppet•25m ago
> ... as demonstrated by the thousands of victims of Boeing crashes from the idiocy of the MAX program...

Uh huh. That's 300-something in crashes. What are the others? Could you enumerate them?

ErroneousBosh•1h ago
We could have had incredibly clean cities 30 years ago, if the UK government hadn't effectively killed off LPG in favour of "scrappage schemes" to get people to buy "cleaner greener diesel" cars.

Until about the early 2000s you could get a grant to cover the cost of converting your petrol car to run on propane. There's masses of it that has to be burnt because it's a waste product from cracking heavier fractions to make plastics feedstocks, and it burns producing only carbon dioxide and water - no HC, no CO, no particulates.

They run warehouse forklifts on it, because unlike diesel or petrol you don't die if you breathe the exhaust fumes.

But, there was more profit to be had in buying everyone's cars for a couple of hundred quid and "scrapping" them - in reality, even 30 years later there are still millions lying in fields that haven't been touched - and then selling people very expensive finance packages so they can buy a diesel car instead.

So now we have stinky diesels everywhere and everyone is in debt. Working as intended.

FridayoLeary•22m ago
It's odd how few cars run on lpg.
twodave•21m ago
Propane also has to be pressurized, which complicates its use. Gasoline being liquid at rest is advantageous.

That said, when I was in Rio in 2007 I saw plenty of cars running on pressurized natural gas. They were considered pretty crappy, though.

ck2•1h ago
we are still using leaded gas

it's been spraying down from prop plane exhaust and engines flying overhead

anyone living around airports is being poisoned

extra TWENTY-FIVE YEARS NOW since cars (as long as the TSA has existed)

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa...

defrost•1h ago
It's common across the globe, eg:

  In 2023, 69.8 million litres of avgas were sold in Australia, releasing 39 tonnes of lead into the environment, predominantly around airports.
* https://bfpca.org.au/lead/

With any luck that will be curtailed "soon":

  The LEAD Group proposes the earliest possible date, certainly well before 2030, for leaded AvGas phaseout in Australia and looks to Europe for the mechanism of phasing it out.

  The lead additive for leaded fuel is called tetraethyllead (TEL).

  Leaded AvGas has a phaseout date of 2025 in the European Union because TEL has a 2025 sunset date in European Union countries.
* https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/docume...
appreciatorBus•1h ago
Like many other aspects of how cars took over our cities, I'd argue the reason we used lead so long is because the conveniences of people inside a vehicle have long been collectively judged to be more important than the lives of people outside the vehicle.
rgmerk•40m ago
It’s worth noting here that premature deaths were routine back when these decisions were made, in a way that we would find almost unimaginable.

While smallpox was no longer a major threat, influenza, polio, whooping cough and a bunch of other infectious diseases killed kids in huge numbers. People died from infections from routine cuts. Millions of young men (mostly) had been thrown in the meat grinder of WWI.

Life was cheaper then.