The BBC is British - what about the UK? The rest of Europe? China? Japan? Russia? Australia? Did the entire rest of the world also use leaded petrol? And stopped using it at the same time as the US?
More or less.
https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/every-country-has-n...
In the general aviation world, to be precise: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa...
The fact that GA is the quintessential arrogant rich man's hobby makes the environmental and human health externalities of it all the more disgusting. However, looking at it from a glass half full perspective, GA does exist at that sweet avocational intersection of "expensive" and "deadly," often putting a significant dent in the finances of those whom it seduces before killing them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0m89fqk?partner=uk.co.bbc...
Cautionary Tales: The Inventor who almost ended the world. BBC Sounds Podcasts
Edit: add title Edit: typo
Prior to the clean air act the advice was to just open the system and vent the old charge into the atmosphere.
Industry was always going to require us to learn _a lot_ of lessons.
Lead fuel was during a time when the cylinder heads were mostly cast-iron, and the valve seat was cut directly into the head. Cast iron is an interesting material, it's reasonably durable, but it corrodes/rusts very easily, especially when exposed to moisture. Gasoline and ethanol both have water as combustion byproducts, so when the engine is off and cools, some of that moisture condenses inside the engine.
Running straight ethanol in an engine without corrosion resistant materials causes much more wear over time because it tends to strip the protective/lubricative oil barriers away, causing iron to corrode when the engine isn't running. Modern engines are aluminum heads with valve seat inserts, stainless steel valves, better piston ring materials (high chromium I think? these were cast iron in the past).
Ethanol has a significant detergent/cleaning effect, even when at 5-10% concentration in gasoline. The valve stems also get some of their lubrication from the fuel, and gasoline is basically a thin oil, and provides protection to mechanical components, better yet with additives. Ethanol is also a difficult fuel in a cold start situation and requires good compression and a strong ignition system to kick it off.
I suspect the whole reason to want to keep lead was motivated by the bean counters involved. They saw a cost savings with lead in the fuel. Cheaper materials and no tooling changes. This means more profits.
You say "modern", but that's a fairly typical 1980s car engine.
There's even a 100LL alternative that has sailed through most tests the FAA requires but the FAA has been stonewalling them for something like a decade. The FAA is full of paper-pushing corrupt beaurocrats who are firmly in the pocket of industry, as demonstrated by the thousands of victims of Boeing crashes from the idiocy of the MAX program (wherein Boeing did not want to spend the money to redesign an aircraft for bigger passenger and cargo loads, so they just stretched the plane, which put the Cg out of whack, which meant they needed to have a computer help fly the plane...and then skimped on redundancy.)
Uh huh. That's 300-something in crashes. What are the others? Could you enumerate them?
Until about the early 2000s you could get a grant to cover the cost of converting your petrol car to run on propane. There's masses of it that has to be burnt because it's a waste product from cracking heavier fractions to make plastics feedstocks, and it burns producing only carbon dioxide and water - no HC, no CO, no particulates.
They run warehouse forklifts on it, because unlike diesel or petrol you don't die if you breathe the exhaust fumes.
But, there was more profit to be had in buying everyone's cars for a couple of hundred quid and "scrapping" them - in reality, even 30 years later there are still millions lying in fields that haven't been touched - and then selling people very expensive finance packages so they can buy a diesel car instead.
So now we have stinky diesels everywhere and everyone is in debt. Working as intended.
That said, when I was in Rio in 2007 I saw plenty of cars running on pressurized natural gas. They were considered pretty crappy, though.
it's been spraying down from prop plane exhaust and engines flying overhead
anyone living around airports is being poisoned
extra TWENTY-FIVE YEARS NOW since cars (as long as the TSA has existed)
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/leaded-gas-wa...
In 2023, 69.8 million litres of avgas were sold in Australia, releasing 39 tonnes of lead into the environment, predominantly around airports.
* https://bfpca.org.au/lead/With any luck that will be curtailed "soon":
The LEAD Group proposes the earliest possible date, certainly well before 2030, for leaded AvGas phaseout in Australia and looks to Europe for the mechanism of phasing it out.
The lead additive for leaded fuel is called tetraethyllead (TEL).
Leaded AvGas has a phaseout date of 2025 in the European Union because TEL has a 2025 sunset date in European Union countries.
* https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/docume...While smallpox was no longer a major threat, influenza, polio, whooping cough and a bunch of other infectious diseases killed kids in huge numbers. People died from infections from routine cuts. Millions of young men (mostly) had been thrown in the meat grinder of WWI.
Life was cheaper then.
drweevil•3d ago
Were they cynics, though? As the article itself points out, the dangers of tetraethyl lead were already well know. And then there is this:
> And, as Gerald Markowitz and David Rosner point out, "For the next four decades, all studies of the use of tetraethyl lead were conducted by laboratories and scientists funded by the Ethyl Corporation and General Motors".
It doesn't take a cynic to see what was going on here.
amiga386•2d ago
And therein they give the reason why ethanol was passed over: a lot of it is required to be effective (~10% of the fuel mixture), seriously dampening the profit margin of fuel sales! It works, but tetraethyl lead is so much cheaper
somat•2d ago
Sure in retrospect lead is a bad idea. but for the sake of argument. If we ignore all the subtlety of the real world choices, research and development required the argument would probably be.
We have this great additive that will let us make more powerful efficient engines that is also stable and lubricating or we could put something in the gas that degrades quickly and eats all the rubber seals out of our customers engines.
In short even ignoring price alcohol was a non starter then, even today with many years of developing rubbers that handle alcohol better E blends are a lot harder on engines than non E blends.
And a fun science experiment "how do you tell how much alcohol is in the gas?" fill a glass mason jar about a third full of gas, mark a line on the jar where the gas is. put another third of water in and color it with food coloring, put lid on and shake well, let separate and settle out. mark new line on glass where gas is. figure out percentage. The alcohol is water soluble and will have formed a solution with the water, the food coloring will only color the water and will let you see the boundery layer easier.
dontlaugh•2d ago
For a while now, any petrol car can run on high ethanol mixed without any damage.
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Scoundreller•39m ago
+ the decreased fuel economy gets people to the stations more often where the high margin stuff is sold.
And if the US can convince the world to include ethanol in fuel, that helps if you’re the biggest corn grower on the planet. Even Canada imports about half of its ethanol (almost entirely from USA), with some of the domestic ethanol production using US corn.
themafia•2h ago
Tetraethyl lead oxidizes and the lead falls out of the solution over time. Ethyl alcohol pulls water from the air and dilutes itself over time.
You also need highly pure and anhydrous Ethyl alcohol for mixture into fuels.
The products simply aren't equivalent when you consider the massive system of fuel delivery and use that exists. The US is a huge country and there aren't refineries everywhere.
Scoundreller•45m ago
How much of a problem is this for people that don’t store their gasoline in open containers?
Like, I get that many containers aren’t 100% sealed to avoid bursting/collapsing, but I don’t get any whiffs of gas when walking by my plastic Jerry cans.
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Lio•1h ago
“Yeah lead is a great business to be in. Let’s do a bull and bear analysis going forward.”
My cynicism is burnt in at this point. You only have to look at how willingly people are to keep pushing fossil fuels.
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